Zygoptera on 27/6/2008 at 23:42
Quote Posted by Stitch
She brings nothing to the ticket and would completely compromise Obama's appeal.
Yeah, the white working class and women are completely unimportant voting blocks, and what with Obama already cleaning up in the primaries in Florida, Pennsylvania, California and all those other highly uninfluential and unimportant states which have never ever decided the outcome of an election there's nothing Clinton can offer at all.
Stitch on 27/6/2008 at 23:50
Problem is you're using meaningless data (who won what primaries) and assuming that white and/or female Dems aren't already breaking for Obama and assuming that the Hillary-or-nobody-else voters would actually climb on board if Hillary were given anything less than top slot. So far you're 0 for 3.
Hillary as VP was debunked a long time ago.
elkston on 28/6/2008 at 00:51
Quote Posted by Stitch
Hillary as VP was debunked a long time ago.
I agree that there are much better strategic choices. But they just look so GOOD together. The chemistry is electric.
I guess she doesn't necessarily HAVE to be VP. In fact, the more I think about it, they'd probably spend more time apart than together if she was VP.
Anyway, I guess I just want them hooking up a lot more as leaders of this new republic.
Stitch on 28/6/2008 at 03:19
Quote Posted by elkston
I guess she doesn't necessarily HAVE to be VP. In fact, the more I think about it, they'd probably spend more time apart than together if she was VP.
There's a lot of baggage she'd bring to the ticket, also. Appointing her as VP would make Obama seem weak, and would compromise his message of change. There's no indication team Clinton would play well as a submissive force, and Bill is highly unlikely to cooperate with the invasive vetting process. Additionally, nothing would quite unite the Republicans behind McCain like putting Hillary on the Democratic ticket.
The fact that she also ran a nasty campaign in which she openly mocked Obama's movement doesn't help, either.
Tocky on 28/6/2008 at 03:22
You have to admit that with Hill as VP right wing wakos would be less likely to bump off Obama. Plus 1/4 of Hillary supporters are saying they will back McCain otherwise says an NPR poll.
The first debate is slated for Ole Miss. I would like to go but it will be swamped.
Fafhrd on 28/6/2008 at 03:35
Quote Posted by elkston
I agree that there are much better strategic choices. But they just look so GOOD together. The chemistry is electric.
I'm confused, do you want them to be in the same administration, or do you want them dating?
Renault on 28/6/2008 at 03:37
Quote Posted by elkston
But they just look so GOOD together.
Oh, I get it now. You're one of the guys who voted for Bill Clinton because he played the sax on MTV, right?
a flower in hell on 28/6/2008 at 03:37
Obama and Hillary together in an enclosed area would violate the laws of physics. It's physically impossible for that much statism and hunger for power to be within a 50 feet radius.
The science involved is pretty technical and would take a while to explain but the end result wouldn't be pretty... >.>
Stitch on 28/6/2008 at 05:51
lol it's so true :laff: