Starker on 14/6/2024 at 07:48

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If you understand it, then why do you insist that clearly disingenuous people should be given proper respect and treated as if their questions were valid? Especially as the video is full of examples how they lied and deceived the public.

Also, if you just look around the comment sections of such clickbait videos, yes, clearly people do believe these kinds of videos apply to all protestors or at least the majority of them.

Starker on 14/6/2024 at 18:49

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And these examples have been specifically selected, curated and fed to you. You can find ignorant people anywhere. Or sometimes just people who aren't eloquent enough or don't understand the question well enough. Or sometimes just don't want to answer, for various reasons. Not all people join a protest to have their face plastered all over media and their personal details found out and disseminated.

Also, even if it is the case that someone isn't educated well enough or know the full history of something, that still doesn't mean they can't be concerned about what is happening.

Right now Israel is killing thousands of civilians, most of them women and children. I'm sure it is difficult to fully imagine what this means, but to a small nation this is a catastrophe. Percentage-wise, considering the population of Gaza, if you compared this to a large country such as the US, the death toll would be in the millions. Israel's forces are herding people together into small cramped areas and denying food aid to reach them, so that they get sick and starve to death while Israeli politicians openly talk about killing Gazans off with hunger and disease. Israel's military bombs schools, hospitals, archives and has destroyed or severely damaged nearly all universities in Gaza while their soldiers proudly film themselves setting fire to libraries. In the West Bank, there are hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers who mete out violence with impunity and full backing of Israel's military. Or, as you put it, "huuurrr colonialism". Huuurrr colonialism indeed.

It is in that context that the media is instead choosing handwring about college kids not knowing all the facts and impugning their character by slandering them as lazy (despite them showing up to a protest to be subjected to police violence and have things thrown at them), having ulterior motives (despite the media having no proof of said motives), only following the trend of wanting to protest anything (despite there being clearly articulated reasons for the protests), simply hating jewish people in general (despite quite a few jewish people taking part of the protests and Israel not being representative of, let alone equating to all jews), wanting to do violence (despite most of the protests being by and large peaceful and the vast, vast majority of the violence being done against the protestors, not by them), being manipulated by evil islamists who have infiltrated and are running the universities (which, if you really think about it, would make the protests entirely unnecessary and pointless), and so on and so forth.

But, y'know, college kids so stupid, amirite?

Starker on 14/6/2024 at 19:15

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The forces in Sudan are not doing it with US backing and equipment. Israel is using US bombs in Gaza that US has forbidden their military to use in urban areas due to their disproportionately high impact on civilians.

Furthermore, while you can do little about atrocities perpetuated by dictatorships such as China or Russia and it is somewhat expected of these regimes to behave this way, Israel is a relatively modern and democratic country, though it has been trending downwards pretty fast.

Azaran on 14/6/2024 at 19:58

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Disproportionate protests tend to aim for soft targets.

Same reason why there's so much bogeyman fear mongering about 'Hindu nationalism' in the west about India (usually just an excuse to attack Hinduism outright), while there's not a peep about how Hindus are treated by Islamists in (https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/mob-attacks-and-sets-fire-to-hindu-temple-in-pakistan) Pakistan and (https://organiser.org/2023/02/02/106900/world/asia/south-asia/persecution-of-hindus-in-bangladesh-66-women-raped-154-killed-and-333-forced-to-eat-beef-in-2022/) Bangladesh (a lot worse than Muslims are in India).

Fake 'activists' know they can publicly attack certain groups without consequence, but not all, and will keep quiet if there's actual danger. Hence the glaring lack of antifascists at (https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna11207606) this notorious fascist protest

Starker on 14/6/2024 at 22:21

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The topic of journalists ignoring Africa, South-America and much of Asia could be a thread in and of itself, and clearly contributes greatly to people not knowing about what's happening in these places, but the fact remains that Israel is considered to be part of the West, more or less, and hence it is a much bigger deal in the West when a Western country commits heinous atrocities. Hell, even the recent Russian attack against their neighbours came as something of a shock to many countries that hadn't been occupied by Russia in the past.