Subjective Effect on 13/6/2024 at 18:45
It sounds like saying a scatter gun approach is preferable to something focused, nuanced and to the point.
Is that fair to say?
Starker on 13/6/2024 at 19:07
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Do you not think it extremely odd for people at a protest to not know what the protest is for? Saying "you'd better ask the organisers" is far beyond unreasonable, it's unintelligent. Outrageous even.
You clearly missed the point of that section, but ok. No, I don't find anything odd about wanting to avoid disingenuous questions, and there's nothing unintelligent or outrageous about it.
Subjective Effect on 13/6/2024 at 19:39
Why is it a disingeous question?
We've seen this again and again and again - protesters at these things being "against Israel" but not actually knowing anything about the situation. I've seen it in real life too.
If you don't know what a protest is about you shouldn't be supporting it.
Starker on 13/6/2024 at 19:54
Not wanting to answer a question doesn't mean you don't know anything about the protest. Not knowing about particulars of something doesn't mean you can't understand the impact of something. I doubt many people are able to talk about the particulars of climate science, but this doesn't mean they therefore aren't justified in feeling concern about climate change impacts.
Not knowing about the particulars of a conflict or how it has historically developed does not impact wanting to stop mass killings of civilians or the starvation of children, even if a particular protest is not about this issue specifically, but simply trying to prevent your tuition going to support it.
Subjective Effect on 13/6/2024 at 20:06
I agree with you in some ways, but it also feels like this excuses people from just joining and causing trouble for the sake of being anti-establishment.
And some of those people clearly don't know what the protests are about, and aren't just refusing to answer.
Starker on 13/6/2024 at 20:11
Again, not wanting to answer a question doesn't mean you don't know what the question is about. All the examples in the video clearly deal with not wanting to answer the gotcha interviewer trying to farm reactions. "It's not my place to explain the official stance of the protest" or "I'm not the spokesperson for this event" in no way translates to "I have no idea what this protest is about."
Subjective Effect on 14/6/2024 at 06:10
But why is it a "gotcha"? If they don't want to answer that's fine, but I've seen plenty of videos where people do answer and are clearly clueless.
Starker on 14/6/2024 at 06:23
Do you really think a pro-Trump influencer who is farming reactions to make a selective clickbait video that make protestors look bad is asking the questions because he genuinely wants to know?
Because this is how the game is played -- shop around until you find people that can't answer the questions well or aren't informed about something and then portray them as a representative sample of everyone.
Subjective Effect on 14/6/2024 at 07:30
I get that they are doing that, and I don't think the uniformed idiots joining the protests without a clue are representative of the entire protest. Does anyone?
However, it remains true that there are some people at those protests who are dumb as bricks, and if you can find any to be on camera the likelihood is that's it not just those people on camera.
