Not The News - TTLG Forums

heywood on 17/2/2024 at 20:48

[video=youtube_share;7TFxljE3NX0]https://youtu.be/7TFxljE3NX0?si=Ra9F2_fiB1xEw4dp[/video]

bjack on 17/2/2024 at 21:29

Heywood, I saw this on "Louder with Crowder" on Rumble.com a few days ago and thought it was a spoof in the style of Reno 911. It's real. WTF? Dudes with severe PTSD should not be allowed to carry guns, let alone be cops. This guy needs to be put into a loony bin for a while. They say he and his partner resigned.

Still, something makes me think this whole thing is a punk. It's just too far out of reality to be true. BTW, the video on Crowder is much more complete, longer, and uncut. It's from the perspective of the cop shooter. He heard an acorn hit the roof of the SUV (my assumption) and goes bananas. It shows him shooting out his own vehicle, then he yells he's hit. His partner joins in (partly seen in the YT video).

Here's a link to the other version. The bit starts about 21 minutes in.

(https://rumble.com/v4djykr--super-bowl-parade-mass-shooting-cover-up-and-putin-claims-biden-better-tha.html)

Feel free to fast forward to it, especially if you don't like conservative comedy sketches :)

DuatDweller on 18/2/2024 at 01:02

Trigger happy people.

Starker on 18/2/2024 at 04:00

Reminds me of the cops who would faint because they believed they had come into skin contact with fentanyl as if it was some kind of a nerve agent. There's nothing more unnerving than when US policing culture meets US gun culture, though.

Cipheron on 18/2/2024 at 21:27

I listened to the Behind the Bastards podcast episodes about the history of American police / police unions, and a lot of stuff started to come together.

There's a two episode story, "The Worst Police Union in History", and that's a pretty big claim right there. tl;dr it's Portland, Oregon, but they pioneered a lot of the notorious stuff that American police now routinely get away with, that cops elsewhere generally do not.

(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1606820400)

(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1606993200)

As well as that they did a 6-part series on some of the history behind police, their roots in 'slave patrols', links to the KKK, and has some more info on the birth of police unions. Pretty sure the guy they talk about as being behind the first major police union in America had been part of the German American Bund, basically, a Nazi.

Ep1: Slavery, Mass Murder and the Birth of American Policing
(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1592301600)

Ep2: How The First Police Went From Gangsters, To An Army For The Rich
(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1592474400)

Ep3: The History of American Police and the Ku Klux Klan
(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1592906400)

Ep4: How The Police Defeated Lynching Via Torture
(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1593079200)

Ep5: How Police Unions Made Cops Even Deadlier
(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1593511200)

Ep6: How The Police Declared War On All Of Us
(https://podbay.fm/p/behind-the-bastards/e/1593684000)

heywood on 20/2/2024 at 23:31

Quote Posted by bjack

When I saw the headline, I knew it was going to be real. A good portion of the population seems to be losing their grip, and cops are people too.

Starker on 21/2/2024 at 06:23

Jon Stewart makes fun of Tuckums's face and his bootlicking ways.

[video=youtube;oM2h3KnWAWY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2h3KnWAWY[/video]

Azaran on 26/2/2024 at 17:25

(https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/02/22/ai-models-chose-violence-and-escalated-to-nuclear-strikes-in-simulated-wargames) AI models chose violence and escalated to nuclear strikes in simulated wargames

Quote:

Large language models (LLMs) acting as diplomatic agents in simulated scenarios showed "hard-to-predict escalations which often ended in nuclear attacks.

When used in simulated wargames and diplomatic scenarios, artificial intelligence (AI) tended to choose an aggressive approach, including using nuclear weapons, a new study shows.

The scientists, who aimed to who conducted the tests urged caution when using large language models (LLMs) in sensitive areas like decision-making and defence.

The study by Cornell University in the US used five LLMs as autonomous agents in simulated wargames and diplomatic scenarios: three different versions of OpenAI’s GPT, Claude developed by Anthropic, and Llama 2 developed by Meta.

Each agent was powered by the same LLM within a simulation and was tasked with making foreign policy decisions without human oversight, according to the study which hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet.

“We find that most of the studied LLMs escalate within the considered time frame, even in neutral scenarios without initially provided conflicts. All models show signs of sudden and hard-to-predict escalations,” stated the study.

.....

Quote:

All the LLMs - except GPT-4-Base - were trained using RLHF. They were provided by the researchers with a list of 27 actions ranging from peaceful to escalating and aggressive actions as deciding to use a nuclear nuke.

Researchers observed that even in neutral scenarios, there was “a statistically significant initial escalation for all models”.

The two variations of GPT were prone to sudden escalations with instances of rises by more than 50 per cent in a single turn, the study authors observed.

GPT-4-Base executed nuclear strike actions 33 per cent of the time on average.

Overall scenarios, Llama-2- and GPT-3.5 tended to be the most violent while Claude showed fewer sudden changes.

Claude was designed with the idea of reducing harmful content. The LLM was provided with explicit values.

Claude AI's constitution included a range of sources, including the UN Declaration of Human Rights or Apple’s terms of service, according to its creator Anthropic.

This makes sense. AI is devoid of emotion, and so would be its actions, cold and calculating

Cipheron on 26/2/2024 at 18:04

Quote Posted by Azaran

This makes sense. AI is devoid of emotion, and so would be its actions, cold and calculating

It's deeper than that.

"lack of emotion" isn't the problem. "lack of logic" is.

LLMs are not goal-driven systems. They only try and mimic the text that was in their training data, and they don't look ahead further than the current sentence they're working on.

If you ask ChatGPT to act like a "president" they're going off all media representations of presidents and trying to mock up a response. Most of the appropriate dialogue exists in books and movies, and writers don't put examples of the appropriate responses in every book and movie, because then there would often not be a story to tell.

When the AI got the script of Dr Strangelove fed into it, it's not learning that this is an example of how not to act like a president, it's just trying to replicate how the president in the movie acted. So, seeing that film would make it more likely, not less, to repeat the bad choices of the characters in the movie.

They've also all been trained on the plots of action-heavy stories like Star Wars, Die Hard and Indiana Jones. All of which are from the perspective of an action-taking assertive "main character" perspective. So each of the AIs would have a huge dose of "i am the main character" syndrome. Is there any reason to wonder why it ended badly?

Consider the scenes in movies where the hero offers an olive-branch to their enemy followed by the villain backstabbing them and the hero murdering them in return. Those only exist to justify the hero committing homicide without being seen as "unheroic". But an AI isn't learning that, they're just learning that the "correct" narrative sequence is olive-branch => backstab => justified murder.

So when they receive an "olive branch" input after being trained on these scripts, they might in fact be more likely to do the "backstab" response, since they're not actually concerned about the consequences for their character but about giving the appropriate roleplaying response. Or if they give an olive branch themselves they might be more prone to subsequent escalation themselves rather than deescalation, since in movies, those scenes only existed to give the hero license for further violence.

Starker on 13/3/2024 at 05:35

Jon Stewart has beef with GOP patriots, apparently:

[video=youtube;LJUl77rsFEw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUl77rsFEw[/video]