Pyrian on 30/11/2023 at 05:29
Quote Posted by Starker
It's kind of hard to think of a proper analogy, because there isn't really anything of similar cultural importance in US culture signifying accomplishment and earned respect, but, as an example, you don't generally see civilians in the US slap on a Medal of Honor and pretend to be a veteran.
Or maybe it's kind of like a Native American putting on a black shirt with a white collar, waving a bible around and pretending to be crucified.
Nobody's going to blink an eye at a kid wearing either of those costumes. "Stolen valor" is when people try to actually pass themselves off as having a background they don't have, and get rewarded for it, socially or otherwise.
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https://www.amazon.com/GIFTINBOX-Military-Accessories-Halloween-Costumes/dp/B0C65BB5D6/)
Starker on 30/11/2023 at 18:06
Well, then there really isn't anything as culturally important in US culture, at least that I can think of, if people won't even mind parents encouraging their kids put on military decorations.
heywood on 30/11/2023 at 19:08
The native nations of the Americas were wiped out by European powers and their colonial children in a textbook genocide. That might explain why people of native descent are generally more sensitive about misuse or crass use of their war symbols, as well as dilution of whatever remains of their culture.
SD on 30/11/2023 at 23:19
As a person of Irish and Jewish descent, two other peoples the European powers did a bloody good job of trying to wipe out, I am perfectly happy for any one of you to culturally appropriate the shit out of shamrocks, shillelaghs, yarmulkes, dreidels, blintz, borscht and boxty. Culture belongs to everyone.
(not gonna lie though, I raised an eyebrow when I came across a cafe selling bacon and cream cheese bagels, breaking not one, but two kosher laws at once)
Aja on 1/12/2023 at 00:42
I agree that culture should belong to everyone or at least should be shared, but if a marginalized group would prefer that I don't prance around in their ceremonial garb, I'm happy to oblige.
mxleader on 1/12/2023 at 01:24
The whole modern day 'cancel' culture reminds me of those old American West stage shows where the room is filled with unruly customers who throw rotten food and random bullets at the stage performers when they don't like what they see.
Starker on 1/12/2023 at 02:50
I mean, who cancelled this kid, really? A black man saw what he thought was possibly a young man or a teen in blackface and wrote a "what the hell... really?" post on the sports blog. Maybe he was too sensitive or overreacted, sure, but from the angle the particular picture was taken it's really not clear how old this kid was in the picture and it looked like the whole face was black. Should he have done more research before he reacted? Sure. That was clearly a mistake.
However, nearly all of the subsequent pieces are from right wing publications and tabloids with a gleeful mix of "Ha! Not racist this time! You done goofed!" and trying to mete out righteous justice for what looks like a misunderstanding on the part of the author. Pretty much all of the outrage is aimed at cancelling this sports writer, with senators and billionaires chiming in. Just compare the two sides for a second: one single writer for a sports blog on one hand, an entire media landscape and some of the most powerful people in the US on the other hand.
RippedPhreak on 1/12/2023 at 03:20
The only way to stop libs from stirring up outrage mobs, is to stir up outrage mobs against libs. If they want to play hardball, they can't cry when someone hits back.
Starker on 1/12/2023 at 03:55
Except these right-wing outrage mobs are more often than not formed over the most trivial and petty things, like publishers deciding to stop selling old books with clearly racist illustrations or M&Ms not being fuckable enough.
mxleader on 1/12/2023 at 11:13
Quote Posted by Starker
Except these right-wing outrage mobs are more often than not formed over the most trivial and petty things, like publishers deciding to stop selling old books with clearly racist illustrations or M&Ms not being fuckable enough.
M&M's aren't fuckable? Dafuq you say, mang?
