mxleader on 18/8/2023 at 03:52
Putin is fucking nuts. That is all.
heywood on 18/8/2023 at 14:33
Whatever Putin is doing apparently works on US conservatives because he's got the vast majority of them in favor of cutting off Ukraine.
mxleader on 19/8/2023 at 00:32
If a country is considered worse than Iran then that's pretty bad for sure.
Cipheron on 20/8/2023 at 05:50
This kind of story shows how desperate the Murdoch press is to score one against the Australian Labor party prime minister
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https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/do-you-know-anthony-albanese-grilled-on-the-price-of-petrol/news-story/8817fca66bf5e05cf99b61a9eb194b2e)
Quote:
Anthony Albanese has conceded he doesn't know how much it costs everyday Australians to fill up a tank of petrol.
Basically this is in retaliation for the previous right-wing leader getting blasted for the same thing.
So ... you'd assume he was WAY off on the price right?
Quote:
“Well, I don't go and fill up my car. But it was around about $1.80 last time,” the Prime Minister responded
So, wrong wrong wrong Albo, you out of touch elitist! in fact:
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Sydney, Adelaide and Hobart recorded an average weekly price of more than $2 a litre, while Brisbane had the cheapest price of 188.2 cents a litre.
Note how they switch units there, and go from being very specific to excessively vague.
They give the low-end price as "188.2 cents" to make it seem a lot more than $1.80, but they could have just written "$1.88", which makes it clear he was actually in the ballpark. Who quibbles over an 8 cent difference, which is about 5 cents US.
While the high price is just hand waved as "above $2". Well ... it can't be MUCH above $2, or they would have been more specific about that. So instead of being to the nearest 0.1 cents, now it's some vague "above $2" value. So suddenly it's ok to go
three orders of magnitude less precise.
Also, you can look up price charts, and the average price was in fact $1.80 in Sydney, which is a more expensive city, on August 3rd:
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https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/petrol-and-fuel/petrol-price-cycles-in-major-cities)
So, OMG, so out of touch. His petrol prices were two weeks out of date. Hell, a normal person who just hasn't filled up their car in a couple of weeks could do that.
SD on 20/8/2023 at 12:17
Don't make the mistake of thinking there's anything progressive about Iran's policies in this area. Homosexuality is a crime punishable by death, and gay people face a stark choice if caught - execution, or forced reassignment surgery. And even after surgery they still face oppression, because Iran.
mxleader on 20/8/2023 at 18:13
Quote Posted by SD
Don't make the mistake of thinking there's anything progressive about Iran's policies in this area. Homosexuality is a crime punishable by death, and gay people face a stark choice if caught - execution, or forced reassignment surgery. And even after surgery they still face oppression, because Iran.
I'm not sure how Iran has escaped the wrath of the western world or any other part of the world at this point for many reasons. There are many political and social reasons why Iran sucks. But they have been a nuisance to shipping and the US Navy for decades. I mean, sure a strategic air assault on their government headquarters, select military installations and nuclear "energy" R&D sites could cause major destabilization in the region but the current regime really deserves it. I may be biased because of my time in the US Navy floating past that country and having our battle group harassed and their blatant attack on our ships during the Iran-Iraq war but they are pretty annoying.
Pyrian on 20/8/2023 at 23:31
Quote Posted by SD
Don't make the mistake of thinking there's anything progressive about Iran's policies in this area.
I mean, that's
why "even worse than Iran" is a yardstick in the first place.
SD on 21/8/2023 at 23:24
Quote Posted by mxleader
I'm not sure how Iran has escaped the wrath of the western world or any other part of the world at this point for many reasons. There are many political and social reasons why Iran sucks. But they have been a nuisance to shipping and the US Navy for decades. I mean, sure a strategic air assault on their government headquarters, select military installations and nuclear "energy" R&D sites could cause major destabilization in the region but the current regime really deserves it. I may be biased because of my time in the US Navy floating past that country and having our battle group harassed and their blatant attack on our ships during the Iran-Iraq war but they are pretty annoying.
I think the feeling is that Iran, as vile a regime as it is, is a problem that is relatively contained. Certainly between them, the US and Israel have done a pretty good job of stymieing any nuclear ambitions they have. There is also a sizeable Iranian middle-class which is generally not hostile to the West, and we would prefer not to alienate them.
Quote Posted by Pyrian
I mean, that's
why "even worse than Iran" is a yardstick in the first place.
Right, part of the point I was making was that Iran isn't really any better than Russia.
mxleader on 23/8/2023 at 20:40
Quote Posted by SD
There is also a sizeable Iranian middle-class which is generally not hostile to the West, and we would prefer not to alienate them.
True. I still don't trust them, but it is better to contain them where they are relatively easy to keep track of ... Saves time having to reprogram ICBM's.
