Beltzer on 16/5/2020 at 11:39
Ok, the fun time is up :) Me and my pals have a little party and played a "beer game". I did what you told me to A.Stahl :) Even before you wrote it. Anyway i lost it. I sent a PM to another member here and told him about some posts on that forum, earlier this day. They saw it. So, if i lost the game, i should do a thread here and nag about my bad "reviews" on the named forum. So i did. It was fun and not so fun at the same time, to read the answers. I have opinions about some things, but under normal circumstances i would never make a thread about it :eek:
So, believe me or not, i did not want to write this. Have a nice weekend. I hope i making some sense. Over and out. Now i'm gonna leave this for the rest of the day/night.
DrK on 16/5/2020 at 11:53
Your statement seems a bit contradictory. When you release something to the public, you expose yourself to criticism. If you care about what you do, you should take advantage of criticism to self-reflect and improve your design. If you do it just for fun, then why bother with criticism ? Just do the mission your way and ignore what people say, and keep having fun.
While Psychosis was a bit harsh in his wording, Nicked seemed pretty fair to be honest. You may not like it, but you can't prevent people from saying what they think about your work. It's up to you to move on from it.
A.Stahl on 16/5/2020 at 12:02
Nobody tells you how you should do the missions. People just share their opinions about your missions. And some people don't like them. Moreover -- some people really don't like them.
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I'm so sick of reading things like this, so i'm not gonna make anymore FMs.
So you gonna stop to do something just because some people (whom you even don't know) don't like the result? Pathetic 13-years-old-girl-tier drama.
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I don't want to read just good things.
But that is exactly what you want.
Good advice from the grumpiest FM player here: drink a beer or two, better five and let it all go. They don't like you FMs, you don't like their opinion, I don't like everything at all. Good!
Beltzer on 16/5/2020 at 12:04
I think a lot of many FMs. But i shut my mouth. They write shit over there and pat each other backs. Who could be most snide.
Beltzer on 16/5/2020 at 12:08
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But that is exactly what you want.
No. I have read a lot of good criticism. I'm positive to that.
And you call me pathetic, nice :)
Psych0sis on 16/5/2020 at 12:15
Drk is spot on, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You release something, people should be allowed to criticize it. Just because it's FREE doesn't mean it's somehow shielded from it. Maybe from here, but on other forums and in private people WILL have some sort of issue with it.
My quote there might be harsh (though I forgot there's apparently some sort of nice quota I'm supposed to meet), but nicked's is possibly the most fair criticism I've ever seen. It's a bit of a farce to get upset about it, especially almost a year later, for... some reason? This is like what, the third time you tried to randomly appeal for pity and call out users publicly like this? It's a shitty move, IMO.
And ultimately, why do you care? We're some no-name idiots online in different parts of the world that you will never, ever meet. I released Dewinder Manor and I knew from the start it was going to be a mess and get pooped on, and it was. I didn't care, I read what people wrote, reflected upon it, and tried to better myself down the line. Troubling Transitions still has a stupid amount of glaring issues, but again I'm going to take any criticism pointing them out and better myself. This is part of a creative process, I see no issues with it myself. If you want to ignore it and just release whatever you want when you want, no one will stop you, just like you can't stop people from giving their OPINIONS on something. You can be mad at me, that's fine (I still stand by what I said, it was from the heart), but being mad at that completely genuine and nice post from nicked is just silly.
Beltzer on 16/5/2020 at 12:26
OK, i'm not that upset on nicked, just because he criticized it about that it just had one way it. That's why i post what he wrote. But you... your post was unnecessary, did you feel good when you wrote it? Did you do it so the other members would agree with you?
"appeal for pity"? NO NO, far from it. If people talk behind my back... I think you are a coward, sitting on that forum, where i'm not a member, and talk about my work in that way. Why don't you write it to me instead?
But OK, i'm a silly 13th. I did what you did. I just wrote it from my heart :)
Beltzer on 16/5/2020 at 12:40
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And ultimately, why do you care? We're some no-name idiots online in different parts of the world that you will never, ever meet.
...i could say the same thing. Why do you care what i'm writing? :)
Psych0sis on 16/5/2020 at 12:46
ok