Noinch, Noinch, Noinch, Schmokin Weed, Schmokin' Weed, Doin' Coke, Drinkin' Beers... - by Scots Taffer
Fragony on 19/4/2006 at 12:42
Hmmm, didn't know it was this bad, I thought it were just a few minor details. I don't agree with his writing style being bad though, it seems a bit borrowed from Brett Easton Ellis works but I enjoyed the book immensily. He should have sold it as fiction though, kind of stupid.
(ooooops sorry scots taffer)
Scots Taffer on 19/4/2006 at 13:07
I've never read the book, but the excerpt I read and the corresponding confessional interview where he admits that it's all made up kind of flies in the face of what this whole thread is about.
Carini on 19/4/2006 at 13:48
Scots delivers, again! ;) I'm going to have to try to fit reading this into my work day. I'm sure I'll find a way.
Awesome thread title, don't let anyone tell you different. :cool:
Rug Burn Junky on 19/4/2006 at 14:43
Quote Posted by KoOK
people who are undergoing personal battles like that are in a constant need of positive feedback.
Ya didn't actually read it, did you?
One of the points Smith makes (or is actually made to Smith) is that to some extent, all of his helping and "positive feedback" were counterproductive. He had to let Mewes bottom out.
Proper feedback is important, but constant, positive feedback? An addict may have a need for it, but that doesn't mean that it's healthy to give it them. Addicts often need to have their safety net removed for them to ever get serious about cleaning up. I've seen it first hand with three different relatives, and several friends. As heartbreaking as it was, taking away that positive feedback was the best thing for them.
As for the story itself, I've been following along since roughly the 3rd one was posted. Smith tells a lot of the early stories about Mewes in the "Evening with Kevin Smith" DVD, almost word for word.
I highly recommend taking a peek at that. All of the stories he tells are pretty interesting, and some of them (including the documentary he made for Prince, and his experiences writing the Superman script) are fucking hilarious.
Scots Taffer on 19/4/2006 at 15:02
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
As for the story itself, I've been following along since roughly the 3rd one was posted. Smith tells a lot of the early stories about Mewes in the "Evening with Kevin Smith" DVD, almost word for word.
I highly recommend taking a peek at that. All of the stories he tells are pretty interesting, and some of them (including the documentary he made for Prince, and his experiences writing the Superman script) are fucking hilarious.
Yeah, I recalled the fellating everything in sight routine from an Evening DVD, also I recall a particularly hilarious and embarrassing bedroom scenario with his wife that he recounted in painful detail.
LesserFollies on 19/4/2006 at 16:50
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
One of the points Smith makes (or is actually made to Smith) is that to some extent, all of his helping and "positive feedback" were counterproductive. He had to let Mewes bottom out.
Proper feedback is important, but constant, positive feedback? An addict may have a need for it, but that doesn't mean that it's healthy to give it them. Addicts often need to have their safety net removed for them to ever get serious about cleaning up. I've seen it first hand with three different relatives, and several friends. As heartbreaking as it was, taking away that positive feedback was the best thing for them.
That is, unfortunately, truth with a capital T. :(
Ko0K on 20/4/2006 at 05:11
No, RBJ, I didn't read it. So far I could only relate to the part about people making assumptions about people with drug dependency.
You obviously developed your own views about how to deal with people under suicide watch based on extensive personal experiences, but when you're dealing with extremely self-conscious, depressed, and obsessive people, assuring them that their life is worth living isn't so easy. I'll just leave it at that.
Rug Burn Junky on 20/4/2006 at 05:12
Too bad, it's actually entertaining, whether you're a Smith fan or not.
Ko0K on 20/4/2006 at 05:41
I can't say that I am a fan, but I watched and enjoyed all his movies. By far "Chasing Amy" is my favorite, although "Clerks" isn't too far behind.
BlackCapedManX on 20/4/2006 at 06:37
Quote Posted by Ko0K
By far "Chasing Amy" is my favorite
Quick aside: Why in the holy hells do people love that movie so much?
On topic: This is a pretty awesome find, I'm a huge Kevin Smith Fan and was up all night once watching what I assume was the contents of the "Evening with Kevin Smith" DVD on television and it was beyond incredible. I intend to break into this just as soon as it isn't 230am.
