The_Raven on 19/2/2008 at 03:42
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I always thought we should criminalize concealed carry and require open carry everywhere for anyone who wishes to go armed. That way, the good citizens who happened to be armed would be in plain view of other citizens and law enforcement personnel, while only bad guys would seek to conceal their weapons. Also the presence of so much naked steel might prove to be a powerful deterrent for those who seek to do us ill!
Lol, I've been saying this for awhile now -I'm pretty sure if you go back to a post I made several months ago, you'll find it. I'm mildly surprised someone else actually thinks the same thing, not that surprising really. In order for the idea to work, there would probably have to have some sort of screening involved; I don't think handing guns out on the street corner would work. :p
Proper training would be another thing. When you're working with potentially lethal machinery -be it guns, electricity, gas, or explosives- amateurs will make mistakes. Especially, the self-taught ones. I've messed with some potentially lethal electronic equipment more than I should have from time to time, and found out later that what little precautions I took were far from enough and poorly executed.
A Flower in Hell might be able to answer this, but I've been wondering lately how easy it is to ignite the gunpowder in regular ammo if they just floating around. I've heard stories of unexploded ammunition being detonated with large taps made to the bottom of the casing. When you think about it, the hammer in the gun just hits the bottom of it anyway to detonate the gun power. Here is where my knowledge would be a little fuzzy. Would it be technically possible to discharge the round by dropping it the right way? I'm thinking that it probably isn't, or accidents would be a hell of a lot more common.
Damn, I'm getting really sidetracked here.
june gloom on 19/2/2008 at 03:49
It'd have to hit the primer just right.
Peanuckle on 19/2/2008 at 16:08
One of the ideas to help prevent school shootings is to arm students and teachers. Now before you people go crazy, listen to me:
You get the Resident Advisors, or someone in charge with responsibility, have them take a Concealed Carry course that will teach them how to properly handle a gun and identify a threat. That way, the student body will have some form of defense.
A bunch of idiots keep wanting to arm every student on campus. Some of these kids I wouldn't trust with a plastic knife, let alone a gun. Getting smashed on campus and never going to class does not a responsible person make.
june gloom on 19/2/2008 at 17:26
SHIT that reminds me I got class
bbl guys
SubJeff on 19/2/2008 at 17:59
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For every one psycho thirteen year old who kills his teachers and classmates there are thousands of robbery-related murders, drug-related murders, gang shootings, organized crime hits, gunfights with police. The "normal" crime can and is severely depressed by the presence of armed citizens.
What wait what? These other "normal" gun crimes are reduced by the presence of guns? I don't get you here at all.
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If you don't count the terrorism, Israel's rate of violent crime is VERY low, and they've got teenage girls walking around with M4 carbines slung across their backsides.
I always thought we should criminalize concealed carry and
require open carry everywhere for anyone who wishes to go armed.
Israel is a completely different situation. You're talking about teenagers doing army service for one, and the entire country is geared up to a drive for social preservation. The mentality is so different there - I once saw an argument between two drivers in Tel Aviv with both guys out of the cars with automatic pistols clearly visible in holsters yelling at each other. At no point did you get the feeling that anyone was worried about it escalating to a shooting (or even fist) match.
The USA is different. Ideas and values are different. Guns are a bad idea there. How and why would gun laws similar to those in the UK be a bad thing?
Mingan on 19/2/2008 at 18:52
Not so much a bad idea ad much as a totally unenforceable and potentially unconstitutional.
There are also areas of the US where there's wildlife population management.
Then there's lawful gun enthusiasts (didn't you notice the US has a gun culture?)
Then there's the NRA pushing for status quo.
Then there's the gun nuts. Don't approach unless you have an Abrams.
There's also the fact that an outright ban can't be justified. Restrictions for automatic/certain semi-auto/etc. are fine by me.
D'Juhn Keep on 19/2/2008 at 18:56
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There are also areas of the US where there's wildlife population management.
Why does everyone think that the UK has no hunting or shooting pests
Mingan on 19/2/2008 at 19:16
Because all we hear about gun laws from the UK is : BAN, BAN, BAN.
SubJeff on 19/2/2008 at 19:41
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There's also the fact that an outright ban can't be justified
How about the death rate due to gun crime being a justification?
If eating your own crap was required in the constitution I swear you guys would argue for it. Get over it.
