Akven on 4/6/2020 at 12:03
Hello
I noticed, that animated textures not working in NewDark for objects
For example DWAL1 texture
There are 6 animated frames for this texture
DWAL1
DWAL1_1
DWAL1_2
DWAL1_3
DWAL1_4
DWAL1_5
But in game objects with animated textures show only first frame
MTL file is working, I can add illumination maps, but non of the animation settings working.
This objects can be seen on the first level of Thief Gold and on the last of Thief 2.
It is not working not only for DWAL texture, but for any frame textures *_X.png/mtl in obj folder.
Can anyone confirm that? Is there any workaround?
voodoo47 on 4/6/2020 at 16:45
try
Code:
DWAL1_
DWAL1_1
DWAL1_2
DWAL1_3
DWAL1_4
DWAL1_5
Akven on 4/6/2020 at 19:05
Ok. I doublechecked!
There are two objects which use animated textures, its ELTRANSF.BIN and WATPUMP.BIN
This is ELTRANSE in Thief 2 with just T2Fix installed
Inline Image:
https://i.imgur.com/NAICPPX.pngNo animation at all, just static picture. I don't know if it was animated in original Thief, but in NewDark its not working.
Animation frames are:
DWAL1
DWAL1_1
DWAL1_2
DWAL1_3
DWAL1_4
DWAL1_5
Also there is static WATPUMP.BIN with frames in obj/txt folder
WAT_
WAT_01
WAT_02
WAT_03
WAT_04
WAT_05
What I did
I renamed WAT_0X to WAT_X and wow, it's working for Water Pump
Inline Image:
https://i.imgur.com/pcCoNVm.pngInline Image:
https://i.imgur.com/qx2HWa8.pngI think it is the first time EVER this object animate in Thief!!!
As for DWALL... I couldn't get it to work with any renaming, it's just stuck on first frame
But I could animate it with MTL file settings:
Quote:
render_pass
{
texture {"obj\txt\DWAL1" "obj\txt\DWAL1_1" "obj\txt\DWAL1_2" "obj\txt\DWAL1_3" "obj\txt\DWAL1_4" "obj\txt\DWAL1_5"}
shaded 1
ani_mode PINGPONG
}
But it's limited to 6 frames only and I cannot insert illumination map
Maybe it's some bug in BIN file which can be fixed by someone?
As for illumination maps: they do not work in render passes cause render pass supports only 6 passes, and most animations had 6 frames. Applying map is 7th pass.
Illumination map do work on Water Pump
I will add this fixes to ESRGAN pack, but I prefer if they would be inserted into T2Fix (at least WAT_0X -> WAT_X conversion). For ELTRANSF.BIN maybe it's a better idea to look into BIN file and somehow fix it and include to T2Fix or something
voodoo47 on 4/6/2020 at 19:30
yes, improperly set up resources definitely are a thing (remember that code flow animation in the SS2 main menu being sort of jerky every couple of seconds? that actually is supposed to be smooth, but two of the texture frames have typos in their filenames). and yeah, the resources should be fixed properly and incorporated into the T2Fix resource package - let Jax64 know.
99% sure this is not a ND issue.
Jax64 on 5/6/2020 at 00:52
As for the transformer, try using (
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fgoj8yy8ZCcNuvXWBuA5MHZ3xJ7enNT9/view?usp=sharing) this fixed object and rename "DWAL1" to "DWAL1_" as suggested earlier. The water pump indeed does fail to animate as a result of the filenames of the other frames being incorrect. Considering these are both resource issues, integrating these with the T2Fix fixed resources would be ideal.
Akven on 5/6/2020 at 03:27
I confirm, it's working now properly with new BIN file. With animation and possibility to add illumination maps
So I suggest for obj files to be animated properly they need to have _ in the end of the name of their first frame?)
Jax64 on 5/6/2020 at 05:51
Excellent. Yes, the underscore is required for the texture animation system to properly identify the individual frames of object textures. It must be the final character present in the filename of the first frame and the underscore should be followed by a positive integer in additional frames. The maximum total animation frames was 20 in the original engine but has been increased to 99 in NewDark.
Akven on 5/6/2020 at 06:16
Will you include this two fixes (ELTRANSF and WATPUMP) to T2Fix?
I already included them into ESRGAN package and will backport them to Thief Gold package (cause they used in Thief Gold too).
Jax64 on 7/6/2020 at 00:01
Yes, they will be integrated into T2Fix's resource patch. I have placed a note on the T2Fix topic as well.
Akven on 11/6/2020 at 10:59
Hey, guys!)
I found a way/possibility to animate some static textures in fam/mech like PWALL01/PWALL01s
Inline Image:
https://i.imgur.com/e2VqmNs.pngIf I just create additional textures
PWALL01_1
PWALL01_2
PWALL01_3
PWALL01_4
PWALL01_5
Texture begins to animate.
So a big question! Should I create additional animation sequences for such static textures? And place it into ESRGAN mod?
I found only one texture so far, so maybe it just PWALL that would be animated
Also, second question:
If I will create additional sequences for example for ORE2_ texture, would they work? For now it
ORE2_
ORE2_1
ORE2_2
ORE2_3
ORE2_4
I could interpolate them with DAIN to get 2x number of sequences for smoother animation. Should I do it?
P.S. I so tired of improving Thief 1/2)) Wanna go for sometheng else
