T2 Mission : "Les Paolis" updated to V. 1.4 (updated in 15-05-2021) - by Cardia
Cardia on 13/4/2020 at 11:07
Quote Posted by flying_hope
I did. Take the evidence and
give em the lockpicks/note but i have to take, only read, the diary, it is not checked green
i reload the game, now it worked..
by the way, whats the name of this nice techno/house-track?
you meant the ambient music inside the city watch station? it's a Dub Techno music called "Comatose" By Quantec :
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https://www.discogs.com/Quantec-Distant-Space-Pt-1/master/485210)
Cardia on 13/9/2020 at 07:21
You´re welcome Steve, alright i´ll make sure to add dewdrop and raindrop to my next mission :), i'm surprise you love so much these dolls .
Samantha1 on 15/10/2020 at 19:53
I´m at part 1 of this mission and so far I really had a blast with it, but the past hour I´m getting more and more frustrated. I´ve tried since nearly an hour now to get into the window where the helmet is supposed to be. I don´t have a speed potion anymore (used 2 already) and neither the side jump (if I´m doing it right at all) nor the rope arrow or any other jump works. Now I can´t even continue with or finish part 1.
I really love this FM. The story and atmosphere are great, the quality is super nice like the starry sky and all, but I wonder why you would add such a frustrating thing?! Of course it will make people mad. You should consider making an update and either add some crates to jump on or make the mantling part easier. There´s no point in making a jump this tough. Didn´t the beta tester query this?! :/
Cardia on 15/10/2020 at 20:48
Hi Samantha , thank you for playing the mission and i´m glad you´re enjoying it, the helmet goal i left it expressively to "expert" mode since experienced players now how to do side jumps, that means a longer jump which is done by jumping sideways , note that you need to run (preferably "always run" set ). There are 3 ways to enter that window (providing you have new mantle enable), the simplest way is by using a speed potion , the second less easier way by jumping sideways, the third and hardest way , from the roof jump down to the window frame, and from the frame to the office inside.
Here's a walktrough video i did showing the two first ways of accessing the window (sorry about the light quality):
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https://youtu.be/82f8v6hJNIs?t=82)
pwl on 15/10/2020 at 21:43
Samantha are you pushing the up and left or right direction at the same time?? Going just sideways wont work, try it on level ground first and you will see that you are going a little faster. To make difficult jumps like this takes some practice. I use my direction arrows instead of the normal letter keys. I use this combination to outrun even haunts I hope this helps.
Samantha1 on 16/10/2020 at 18:50
I get you guys, I really do, after like 1 hour I finally managed to do the jump too. I did it differently though. I jumped from the roof on the window and then pushed only down (not jump) and Garrett managed to "swift" into the room. But my point of state is that it is done way too difficult. It´s great to have difficult tasks, challlenges are always nice, but this was not done in the difficult-nice-challenge-way, but in the super-hardcore-annoying-soon-I-will-destroy-my-pc-way :D You can´t really work for the task, you have to do it with sheer luck. And while it only has to be done on expert, even experienced players will get frustrated after awhile or rather said, especially experienced players will get frustrated. Here in the forum I saw alot of complaints about it and while I really do love this FM and absolutely appreciate the awesome work that was done for it, I can understand the frustration about this. It´s just like.. it is not really necessary to add sth. this diffcult/annoying since it is not going to be appreciated and will leave a bad impression even though its such a great FM :angel: but anyway I finally managed to do it. Now going for the portrait and then onto part 2! :cheeky: thanks alot cardia!! :)
Cardia on 16/10/2020 at 19:52
Lol it's not so hard has that, in the walktrough video i did i had to jump 4 times cause using the Fraps programm to record the video it slows down the gameplay framerate, otherwise with on single jump i can do the trick, it's a matter of practice :)
The painting is easier to get, no need any special jumps. The second mission idem . Good luck for the next goals.
Samantha1 on 17/10/2020 at 15:35
Quote Posted by Cardia
Lol it's not so hard has that, in the walktrough video i did i had to jump 4 times cause using the Fraps programm to record the video it slows down the gameplay framerate, otherwise with on single jump i can do the trick, it's a matter of practice :)
I strongly disagree with this. You may enjoy practising difficult jumps like that so you can make pretty much every lucky jump, but not everyone does or rather said, many don´t. The fact that so many players here had that problem and got frustrated by it, supports my statement of it being ridiculously difficult. Unnecessarily so. In fact you saying that it´s not, makes it sound like others are just too unpractised/dumb in doing it and believe me, someone that plays thief for over 20 years now (the majority here does) will not appreciate a statement like that. I don´t either ;)
Anyway, I just finished both missions and I really enjoyed both of them! A quality city with good story is exactly my cup of tea. It´s just abit sad that it could have been done easily alot better if just the gameplay wouldn´t have been done so badly. I will give my pros and cons to it:
Pros:
-Beautiful city with great atmosphere and lovely places. And that starry sky. Just beautiful!
-Good storyline with nice objectives to do
-Beautiful custom objects as loot
-Lots of rope arrowing to hidden, high above places
Cons:
-Garrett. I don´t know who the guy in this fanmission was, but it was definitely not Garrett:laff: the way he talked, the things he said, he was way too nice for Garrett. Garrett is cynical, sarcastic and unfriendly and that´s why we adore him. When he said that he will not charge Sandra for the task with the high priest I fell from the chair laughing cause not in a million years Garrett would ever say sth. like that :laff: or fawn over a woman with how beautiful she is, that´s far from being Garrett
-It´s easy to get high up in some places, but very difficult to get down alive again
-getting through the window with atticas helmet was way too ridiculous
-loot hunting. Playing on expert I was always over 1.000 loot under the loot goal. It´s one thing to have to look for a few hundreds of loot after finishing all the other objectives, but more than that? Ridiculous. With sth. like that you only manage that the player loses interest in looking at the beautiful buildings and places cause you have to look in every corner in hope to find some coins
All in all it could have been a perfect fanmission if not for the sometimes way too annoying things you have to do to be able to continue. Takes away all the freedom of enjoying and appreciating it properly.
Cardia on 17/10/2020 at 20:05
Samantha i´m glad you enjoyed both missions despite the cons you came across. Yes i know Garrett is cynical, but i never saw him as unfriendly, despite his anti-social tendency i always saw on him this human side, whiling to aid people not just for money but also for moral reasons.
regarding the jump thing, let it be clear that it was never my intention to criticize others by trying to give a smart impression of me, on the contrary my intention was to say that the jump trick is no sorcery , its easy to master it, considering you have "always run" enable as well as Garret new_mantle, and then you might have assigned keys to Garrett movements that are not practical for doing the side jump, i use the arrow keys for Garrett movements, also for this mission if you have a speed potion you don't need to do the special jump movement in order to reach that window, just consume the potion take some step back and launch yourself forward then jump and press jump again to climb the window, it's so simple as that, das ist sehr einfach , glaub mich an.
But i´m taking that in count anyway and will no longer do missions where players need to do long jumps.
Thank you for your feedback :thumb: