RocketMan on 7/4/2009 at 00:21
Lol, you guys probably did in 10 minutes what took me an evening to do and you did it better. I'll reserve myself to doing a bit more homework before I make the site worse.
Yakoob on 7/4/2009 at 00:55
Quote Posted by Kolya
What? No! My pure code! Do not desecrate it with a WYSIWYG editor.
Hahah, so true. I hate WYSIWYG editors for the reason, I'm kind of OCD when it comes to code.
Reminds me of my high school Info Tech class where we had to design a website with Dreamweaver. Everyone struggled with the shitty program and took a good few days to get their sites done. Me, after 5 minutes of usin dreamweaver, said "fuck this," whipped out notepad and was done with the site by the end of the day.
Yea, fuck WYSIWYG editors.
demagogue on 7/4/2009 at 02:17
I learned HTML and made my first site in notepad back in 1996-97 ("Local Demagogue Now Recruiting Minions"), Dreamweaver didn't even come out until late '97, and never thought about doing it a different way since. Later I had a job that wanted me to learn/use Dreamweaver and I hated it from the start.
Anyway, as long as we're handing out free web-dev advice, my method has always been to scrounge the internet looking for concepts that I like, then "View - Source" in the browser to beg, borrow, and steal their layout ideas; mixing and matching parts I like (usually I'd draw a basic design from the start, then I'd go out looking for other pages that used its ideas); and creating my own borders and the like in photoshop.
Volitions Advocate on 7/4/2009 at 06:31
I use Microsoft Visual Web Developer.
They have a free version on their site.
It's not like it sounds, it's not WYSIWYG, it's pure code, but with helpful visual aids. ... erm.. mostly just coloured fonts and automatic indenting incase you're a messy coder.
rachel on 7/4/2009 at 07:50
Quote Posted by demagogue
Anyway, as long as we're handing out free web-dev advice, my method has always been to scrounge the internet looking for concepts that I like, then "View - Source" in the browser to beg, borrow, and steal their layout ideas; mixing and matching parts I like (usually I'd draw a basic design from the start, then I'd go out looking for other pages that used its ideas); and creating my own borders and the like in photoshop.
Same here.
That's how I learned HTML and CSS: copy and tweak until you can whip out a page on your own. Then repeat with new concepts.
No matter what you think of, someone thought of it before and implemented it better. So look for it, dissect it, and learn.
Garras on 7/4/2009 at 12:37
To be honest, I can't really see any problem with my code and using a WYSIWYG editor. 99.9% of web-users aren't going to be looking at the source code anyhow. I've never had any problems with the pages loading and the sites that I've done look EXACTLY like they should, even the text.
I've tried various text editors, text-based editors, WYSIWYG, WYSIWYM and also web-based HTML editors. None are as easy or fun to use as Cool Page. As for deprecated code, the code itself insn't deprecated, just perhaps the usage of it. But who cares? Like I said, my sites look the way they SHOULD.
If anything, WYSIWYG is the future. I don't have the time or desire to learn 'pre' HTML coding, I do have a life after all. Also, shouldn't creating websites be fun?
Garras on 7/4/2009 at 12:48
It still makes no difference. The site still looks as it SHOULD do, I've never had any problems with it loading and displaying correctly.
If you're this worried about code, I bet you wouldn't play any games as I bet their code is not perfect. Who cares though - as long as the game runs and is good? It's the same principle.
