EvaUnit02 on 4/9/2012 at 05:25
Art assets and "level design" are fucking irrelevant to an engine's capabilities, you fucking moron. Especially considering multi-platform games which are targeting ancient hardware from 2005 (the consoles PS3 and Xbox 360 I'm alluding to, in case it hadn't penetrated your thick skull). The additions that they've in the current build of Source are several light years ahead of the 2004 build, hell it's noticeably better than 2009's L4D2 version too. You don't need DX11 bells and whistles to considered "with the times", especially since high end graphics are pretty niche market these days.
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None, really, which is all the more reason.
Like I said, I am not discrediting the mod, but just arguing that the exposure and audience will probably not be as big as it would've been back in the hay day, where more people were prone to checking out mods. Sure the die-hard fans and followers will get it, but what about the more "casual" players? Half of them probably dont even have HL2 or the SDK installed anymore and will probably chuck it into the "cant be arsed" category..
We'll see. When the first episode of this game is released and once the news has spread over various forums and news/blog sites like Reddit, RPS, Kotaku, Shacknews, etc I bet that HL2 will be reinstalled in numbers that dwarf the lifetime playerbase of current phenomenon/sacred cow DayZ. Do not underestimate the reputation and wide love of the HL series.
june gloom on 4/9/2012 at 05:28
Especially considering how much people fall over themselves every time someone starts a rumor of the slight off-chance that Valve might be considering the possibility of talking about maybe revealing the next game in the series maybe.
demagogue on 4/9/2012 at 05:51
I liked HL1 a lot, but I'm not drinking the kool aide for this... I think because, except for the first ten minutes, HL2 left me pretty cold in the end, so retooling HL1 to it sounds just ok... It gets a big graphics boost and the controls won't be as clumsy, all good things, but I'm not feeling the spirit of it. I'm the kind of person that likes to watch old movies in B&W and play old games in their native setting anyway.
As for the mod scene, I do hope that HL3 comes with an editor and people start building for it and make a new scene for it. Like you all are saying, there's no FPS out there that's really holding that mantle these days, and HL3 is the obvious candidate.
EvaUnit02 on 4/9/2012 at 05:59
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Yes, which makes up the majority of FPS gamers if you haven't noticed.
Oh, is that why Call of Duty titles and scalable F2P shooters with modest requirements probably have the biggest populations of any FPS these days? "FPS gamers are predominantly technology whores" my arse. If anything hardcore FPS gamers try to scale things down to bare minimum with tweaked configs and the like, to increase their clarity/visibility and game performance. (A good number of the hardcore PC E-sports FPS audience stuck to CRTs for longest time, until 120Hz flatpanels came along. It can take a bit to get games running consistently at 120fps.)
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Actually, which FPS mod scenes are big or renowned nowadays? Genuinely curious.
ArmA 2
ZylonBane on 4/9/2012 at 16:00
Quote Posted by demagogue
It gets a big graphics boost and the controls won't be as clumsy, all good things
Uhm, HL2's basic controls are identical to HL1. What are you talking about?
SubJeff on 4/9/2012 at 16:22
I think he means movement speed and so on.
Thief has exactly the same controls as Thief DS. They don't feel the same to play, do they?
ZylonBane on 4/9/2012 at 17:19
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Thief has exactly the same controls as Thief DS. They don't feel the same to play, do they?
IF he meant the player movement, which yes is less "skatey" than in HL1, then he should have said that. I have never heard the original's controls or movement described as clumsy. They're quite fluid actually.
SubJeff on 4/9/2012 at 17:37
Didn't compute, huh?
When does the next version of your software come out?
ZylonBane on 4/9/2012 at 17:54
Ahh, there's the SubJeff we all know and loathe.
