gunsmoke on 7/5/2010 at 10:43
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
No and no. The phrase was coined for The Matrix.
I thought we were talking specifically about games here.
Matthew on 7/5/2010 at 10:54
That's a strange assertion to make, Adanux. There's a difference between a game containing real-world items or brands and having those brands promoted in a way that is at odds with the rest of the presentation of the game.
Aja on 7/5/2010 at 23:47
It'd be like the real world if every product was generic except batteries.
Wormrat on 8/5/2010 at 03:06
The trademark ownership notwithstanding, Matrix was 1999, Max Payne was 2001. My 1999 VHS copy even has a feature called "What is Bullet-Time?"
june gloom on 8/5/2010 at 03:50
Max Payne began development in 1996. Nice try though.
And in any case, both Max Payne and The Matrix owe the concept of slow-mo gunfights to John Woo.
Do some research next time before you spout complete horseshit.
Wormrat on 8/5/2010 at 05:35
Haha, don't be bitter. Just because Max Payne had slow motion planned from the beginning doesn't mean they were kicking around the phrase "bullet time" in their meetings. The Matrix coined and popularized the phrase. Show me a magazine scan pre-1999 and I'll eat my words.
june gloom on 8/5/2010 at 05:53
Bitter? Who's bitter?
Bullet time was never ever actually mentioned in The Matrix. Max Payne was the first property to actually use the term, regardless of John Gaeta using it in some making-of video.
Yakoob on 8/5/2010 at 08:39
Who gives a shit, deciding who was the first person ever to utter "bullet time" is not gonna change the game or the movie, it will not affect the gamplay and story of alan wake, nor will it help the starving children in zimbabwe.
henke on 8/5/2010 at 14:17
Quote Posted by dethtoll
And in any case, both Max Payne and The Matrix owe the concept of slow-mo gunfights to John Woo.
And John Woo owes the concept of slow-motion gunfights to (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMxGFco57Y) Sam Peckinpah.
do ur research nub
june gloom on 8/5/2010 at 19:18
Not my fault wormrat decided to have a bitchfit.
You're right about John Woo though, henke. But the Matrix and Max Payne specifically owe the bullet time concept to Woo. We could go back and argue where x director got x idea which was borrowed from some film 20 years earlier until we're blue in the face but the fact of the matter is, in immediate terms the buck stops with John Woo.
