Nevermore. - by Tocky
BrokenArts on 3/5/2010 at 19:06
I heard it may reach the Atlantic. As I listened to the news last night, weather is hampering the clean up, though things can change, tears filled my eyes. I never do that. I feel embarrassed to admit that, I don't care. This sucks. To think of the potential disaster this may cause. I feel so helpless, and angry. I know accidents happen, but, come on. Neglect and incompetence is written all over it. I hope after this there will be tighter laws, and regulations. Whether or not in the long run that would do any good. People will always be DE DE DEEEE!
d0om on 3/5/2010 at 19:33
While BP own the rights to the oil, it was a different company who were contracted to actually build and run the rig.
So while BP are liable, its not their "fault" really, except for maybe they shouldn't have subcontracted out to someone else to do their drilling in the first place... I imagine they will sue the contractors out of existence, but it won't make much of a dent in their payments for the damage caused by the slick...
Vivian on 3/5/2010 at 21:09
Quote Posted by Tocky
That's BRITTISH Petroleum. I think I now understand the blame shifting and redirection earlier in this thread. Or perhaps I have jumped to a conclusion.
If that's seriously aimed at me, then no, I didn't become interested in conservation to patriotically distract attention from a company that's half american anyway. What sort of twat would do that.
Rug Burn Junky on 3/5/2010 at 21:33
Complaining about bluefin tuna in light of the horrifying magnitude of this ecological disaster in its entirety is no less twattish, but at least if you were doing it for misguided patriotic reasons you wouldn't be a hypocrite.
You're better than that.
Vivian on 3/5/2010 at 22:00
Why hypocrite? And seriously, every 'patriotic' British person is currently canvassing for the BNP or getting morissey tattoos, far as I know. No one gives two shits about BP.
And grah, ecological disaster, it's just a really, really visible one in a world built on them.
Rug Burn Junky on 3/5/2010 at 22:17
Because caring about the chronic smaller scale ecologic disaster that is the extinction of one particular species of tuna more than the larger scale, acute disaster that is currently unfolding is sort of seeing the forest for the trees. It comes across that you've chosen one particular aspect of "conservation" as a pet project instead of thinking critically about the all of the issues involved, which suggests that you don't give a shit about true conservation so much as you have become psychologically and emotionally invested in smaller particular issues.
Though I, and I'm sure most here, agree that the extinction of a species is no small matter, it's possible to reasonably disagree with how that is to be handled. However there is no way to justify the oil spill as anything but horrific, and belittling it as you have done here shows that your stance on conservation lacks seriousness.
The "undermining" that you noted in your initial post is very real, it's just that the hypocrisy is on your end, not Tocky's.
On the other hand, while caring about the health of a corporation because it's loosely related to your nationality would be quite retarded, at the very least it does not directly contradict the point you're trying to make.
Vivian on 3/5/2010 at 22:36
Ach, I guess you're right. But just the offhand reference to the constant, unknowing ecological attrition we all commit daily as being part of the 'business as usual' this oil reservoir spout is fucking up - it bugged me.
Queue on 4/5/2010 at 00:55
You want to talk about being twats... Quite a few of the Republicans whom were screaming bloody murder a couple years back to lift the ban on offshore drilling, or now screaming bloody murder that we need to impose a ban on offshore drilling.
Somehow, it's Obama's fault.
And I can honestly understand, and applaud, the meaning behind Vivian's point in that everyday pollution happens, everyday the decimation of an endangered species happens, everyday the destruction of natural habitats happens, everyday the corporate mentality numbs us a little bit more into submission--into looking the other way because we love our fucking "good" lives and can't quite live without the fucking Applebees. All this goes one everyday, day in and day out, without too much hulla-ba-lu, and it seems that people only rally and act like they truly give a shit when an event such as this one happens.
In the end, I hate everyone.
PigLick on 4/5/2010 at 01:08
I dont hate everyone, just dont trust em.
Starrfall on 4/5/2010 at 01:19
Obama is black. Oil is black. COINCIDENCE?
It will likely be horrifying to see how this turns out ecologically and interesting to see how it turns out politically. Six months to go.
