Nevermore. - by Tocky
Tocky on 1/5/2010 at 23:40
Quote Posted by Tocky
The oil will take it's beaches. It will drive away the dolphin and bluefin tuna. It's sheen and smell will permiate all coating all with sterility. There will be no delicious tuna steak, no flounder, no ice chests of gulf shrimp big as your hand to take home.
I wasn't going to point this out Vivian but since you had such a hissy fit where exactly did it say I eat bluefin? What you did was to take two separate dots and draw a line between them. Is this how you draw your conclusions about dinosaurs? There are tuna of other variaties so populate they can them. Perhaps you have eaten them? If so you are a hypocrite and sloppy conclusion drawer.
The whole point of this was to point out the endangerment of an entire region AND it's ecosystems AND thus all endangered species within. Now due to your conclusion jumping and panty wadding it has turned to something rather distasteful.
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Alright, I'm sorry. I did the same shitty thing you did. If I went to Africa and they said to try the Cheetah steak, it is a local delicacy, then I would try it if I didn't know it was endangered. I have no idea what particular tuna I ate. I did not think to ask. Tell you what, if you want to make a silk purse of this sows ear then inform us all of thier numbers and breeding grounds and how this disaster will effect them. Then maybe take a moment to mourn all those things of the earth we only get to experience for a brief time.
I am a creature of my environment. I touch, taste, revel in everything I come into contact with. It is mans nature to enjoy all his senses. Also to use his surroundings for survival. We are omnivors because that is what best led to our survival. In the past it has resulted in the extinction of species from the mammoth to the large birds of Australia. Before we touch that delicate flower perhaps we should know if we will pass a fungus that will wipe it out but we don't always. In this case, however, we knew what oil does. We had no plan B. We have fucked up bigtime and I regret this loss on a personal as well as mental level. It is horrible. I wish I could give each of you some of my memories so you would know how much so. I tried.
Vivian on 2/5/2010 at 01:58
I know I'm being an arsehole about this, but yeah, that's my point. Oil slicks are fucking shit, but we do far worse stuff all the time and exponentially less people give a shit because it doesn't directly spoil your sea view.
Tocky on 2/5/2010 at 02:17
Maybe some of us don't know and should be informed? Here is a site for that.
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http://www.bigmarinefish.com/bluefin.html)
I've learned now and damn it I don't like what I learned. The gulf is THE BREEDING GROUND FOR THEM so now they are totally fucked. Not a lot is said in the media about this and that's a shame. NOt that it matters now anyway. Well heres to them. We had them for awhile. Fuck. I guess it would be in poor taste to say they tasted damn good? If that's what I had. It could have been yellowfin. WAIT DON'T TELL ME THEY ARE ENDANGERED TOO.
Tocky on 2/5/2010 at 03:15
I know I'm double posting and damn you for noticing but I'm melting down and you are going to witness it. Oil floats right? The dispersants dissolve it into the rest of the water to screw with the marine life below right? How do they help exactly? Dissolve to an overall less killing dose? We trust this because that is what the oil companies tell us? The same ones that did not have a continency plan for this fuckup? Always we hear how the fishing industry will be affected. How will the microbiology, the base, be affected? How will the bluefin spawn survive? How will anything survive with so much pumping into thier breathing space? We harvest so much but the base is there to build on if we don't go too far but what now? What now when we go too far?
Fuck the view. Well no, I love the view or did, but this is serious. This is a buttload of oil and they still have no real idea how to stave it off. At the least it will reach Valdez levels. Oh yeah it is less viscous and that should reassure us. Fuck us we just eat species to extinction anyway. We ring in the nose red state inbreds deserve it. The seas will burn says the blackest crow. Will you eat oysters from the gulf now? You did before when you closed your eyes to the crap you dumped into the Mississippi.
I am running around the same greasy maze now. I am bleary eyed with it. I am impotent. I sign a petition and go to bed while the world melts into a pile of sludge. I am useless.
Thief13x on 2/5/2010 at 05:26
dude, what's it gonna be like 3 years from now?
Blue skies, blue ocean, and the same bs problems we've always had with extinction and our insatiable desire for the amazing taste that seafood offers and black gold in the same breath. This 'oil slick' is a record sure, but so is the rate of government spending, the deficit, and the exempt number of tax payers.
It's not all going to hell in a handbasket, and even if it was we sure as hell aint the folks who are gonna stop it. Now good night, my Digiorno is ready and it's straight up beef and pig. I wish the bluefinn the best of luck Vivian, but chances are if we don't eat all of the fuckers our children will.
Tocky on 2/5/2010 at 05:48
Yeah. We eat the world. That makes it okay. NO. This is differerent. This is a cove of interconnected systems, however large. This is some major shit. Yeah, we are going to collapse in a fiancial greed clusterfuck. So what? This will last forever. Finance is momentary. Have you felt the tickle of fish against your skin? Have you felt the pull on your line and know it could be anything? ANYTHING?
We are fucked. Take my word. Never again is a terrible thing.
frozenman on 2/5/2010 at 21:17
:(
Are there any sorts of microbial genetically engineered organisms we can use to fight the slick? I keep reading about the oil getting stuck in marshlands and other coastal areas and it becoming nearly impossible to wash-out by hand, as opposed to say rocks. a) I'm not really sure if such a thing exists and b) Introducing some engineered organism into a huge ecosystem is probably kind of a no-no, but in light of the alternatives maybe it becomes more comprehensible?
Tocky on 3/5/2010 at 17:25
Vivian will enjoy hearing they have now banned all fishing in the gulf. All the fish including endangered ones can now die a natural oil related death. But BP has employed some of the fishing fleet (heretofore known as "you fuckers") to contain the spill. That should salve the wound of losing thier livelyhood. BP has also offered Alabama coastal residents 5000 dollars each to sign waver not to sue. I don't think they got any takers from the stunned residents who have lost thier way of life though.
That's BRITTISH Petroleum. I think I now understand the blame shifting and redirection earlier in this thread. Or perhaps I have jumped to a conclusion.
Tourism gone. Estuaries gone. Shrimp, oysters, clams, fish, crab, even the damnable jellyfish gone. It could reach Floridas coral reef, one of the few left, and we all know how they react to any contaminant. Billions in lost dollars as well, if I may mention the filthy lucre, but that's not what anyone on the coast is worried about.
Maybe it won't be so bad. Maybe.
Aerothorn on 3/5/2010 at 18:52
On the Karmic side, BP stock has already lost $20 billion in stock value and is continuing downward, so - while in no way comparable to the destruction of an ecosystem - it's not like they're getting away unscathed.
