Namdrol on 12/2/2010 at 14:26
It is impossible to separate cognition and consciousness from the structures in which they arise; the body as a biological system and as a personal, phenomenologically experienced system and then the physical world with which that body interacts.
This suggests that reductionism becomes absurd because you can never go far enough back to create a big enough list.
Though we don't know yet if there is a tipping point, a place where a critical mass of info is gathered, leading to a feedback loop, creating a form of self awareness where characteristics are translated into concepts.
ZylonBane on 12/2/2010 at 15:17
Quote Posted by Bionicman
Not the newest video, and I know none of these are his theories but it's the first I'd heard of a Dyson sphere, the Kardashev scale, and the concept of Singularity.
So what you're saying is that you've never read any decent science fiction.
hopper on 12/2/2010 at 15:30
So what you're saying is that any science fiction that makes no mention of a Dyson sphere, the Kardashev scale, or the concept of Singularity isn't worth reading.
Stitch on 12/2/2010 at 15:55
fuck the martian chronicles :mad:
ZylonBane on 12/2/2010 at 18:08
Quote Posted by hopper
So what you're saying is that any science fiction that makes no mention of a Dyson sphere, the Kardashev scale, or the concept of Singularity isn't worth reading.
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YES.
Bionicman on 12/2/2010 at 19:59
Very interesting, gentlemen! Exactly what I'd hoped for.
@ZB: I've not read too much, mostly Star Wars expanded universe, literally all of Ray Bradbury's short stories(no mention of these things, and damn decent Sci-Fi:p), and a little Arthur C Clarke. Clarke I'm sure touches on these in some writings though I didn't get very far in his compilation. Perhaps you could recommend some further reading surrounding these subjects?
ZylonBane on 12/2/2010 at 21:11
Ringworld, doi.
PeeperStorm on 12/2/2010 at 21:12
Go read some Larry Niven. You'll learn more hard science than you know what to do with. Start with Ringworld for a little hot Dyson Sphere action, among other things.
Stitch on 12/2/2010 at 21:35
I would read Ringworld, but after ZylonBane's "doi" post I'm afraid it's simply out of the question.
Sulphur on 12/2/2010 at 21:54
Good. You should just read The Stars My Destination instead. All of you. Because it's a good book. No doi.
