Bucky Seifert on 14/11/2018 at 22:19
Quote Posted by voodoo47
about the Diablo Immortal situation - Blizzard took the most hardcore fans, dangled something they obviously wouldn't want in front of their noses, and essentially called them idiots for not liking it. any company that does such a thing deserves to experience the resulting shitstorm in its full ferocity.
Honestly, yeah. I love Blizzard, I love Diablo, and I've stood up for them in the past. Hell, I've stood up for Diablo 3. But this, I have no sympathy for them for. They dropped the ball, and dropped it hard. I'm not against them making a mobile game of Diablo. If I put my business hat on, it makes complete and total sense to do so. But to go about it the way they are is just inexcusable. Under different circumstances I would be excited for Diablo Immortal, but instead I loath it.
froghawk on 14/11/2018 at 23:22
All of this drama is because a blog post saying 'we're announcing something Diablo-related, but it's not going to be big' was a little bit too vague and open to interpretation. That's it.
Bucky Seifert on 15/11/2018 at 00:56
I know, that's the funny thing about all this, isn't it? It could so easily have been avoided.
Sulphur on 15/11/2018 at 05:09
I find the level of overreaction hilarious. Sure, be disappointed or irritated, but being a bunch of whiny shits hyperventilating over it shows exactly how much growing up everyone involved has yet to do.
Bucky Seifert on 15/11/2018 at 05:17
Quote Posted by Sulphur
I find the level of overreaction hilarious. Sure, be disappointed or irritated, but being a bunch of whiny shits hyperventilating over it shows exactly how much growing up everyone involved has yet to do.
It's not the game itself but the circumstances around it. Honestly Blizzard can make all the F2P mobile games they want (as I said before, from a business perspective, it makes total sense to have some of those on the market), as long as they show something concrete that they still care about their core audience, the ones who got them to the plateau they are on, and want to create new content for them. That is where they are failing. That's why there is almost a sense of betrayal by Diablo fans, and even fans of Blizzard in general. Not to mention how every thing that they have said since has done nothing but to give people further reason to be concerned about Diablo Immortal and the future of the company.
Sulphur on 15/11/2018 at 05:38
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It's not the game itself but the circumstances around it. Honestly Blizzard can make all the F2P mobile games they want (as I said before, from a business perspective, it makes total sense to have some of those on the market), as long as they show something concrete that they still care about their core audience, the ones who got them to the plateau they are on, and want to create new content for them. That is where they are failing. That's why there is almost a sense of betrayal by Diablo fans, and even fans of Blizzard in general. Not to mention how every thing that they have said since has done nothing but to give people further reason to be concerned about Diablo Immortal and the future of the company.
Blizzard has, in the last decade, taken its sweet time making follow-ups to any games in its established franchises. The gap between Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 was 12 years. They never said they
weren't making another full-spec Diablo (the idea of which to me remains: sigh), but you have a bunch of people going ballistic over a mobile release. It's ironic that you have adults throwing tantrums like the children who'll probably discover Diablo Immortal as a fun lightweight game. This talk about a sense of 'betrayal' over something inconsequential is just entitlement masquerading as butthurt. Yeah, Blizzard could have communicated their relative lack of news better. Get over it and find something productive to do with your time instead being a squealing manchild.
Gryzemuis on 15/11/2018 at 12:20
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Wherein Grizzlemuse writes a thousand words and establishes his own absurd taxonomy just to say he prefers games with exploration and a story.
There clearly weren't enough words in my post. Because you didn't get the gist.
My post was not about what I like personally.
I tried to explain that there are 2 very distinct things. And both of them are called games.
When talking about "games" people can have very different ideas about what they are talking about.
I got the feeling most players on this forum like the type-2 (immersive) games. So when talking about games, they mean immersive games.
While maybe the majority of people playing games think about the type-1 games (farmville, angry birds, solitaire, etc).
That's very relative for the discussion at hand.
froghawk on 15/11/2018 at 14:47
Oh, come on. They lost a lot of their core audience when they decided to make an MMO. Then they lost more when they decided to make a MOBA and a card game and a first person shooter. They've made all of one RTS in the last 15 years, and the one Diablo game they made in the last 18 years had cartoony graphics and a lot of mechanical issues. Why does the core audience still have these expectations?
Bucky Seifert on 15/11/2018 at 22:34
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Oh, come on. They lost a lot of their core audience when they decided to make an MMO. Then they lost more when they decided to make a MOBA and a card game and a first person shooter. They've made all of one RTS in the last 15 years, and the one Diablo game they made in the last 18 years had cartoony graphics and a lot of mechanical issues. Why does the core audience still have these expectations?
That comes off to me as more whining that Blizzard branched out and did other things, rather than just RTS games and occasionally an ARPG. I mean I'd get sick of making nothing but RTS games after a while.
Nameless Voice on 15/11/2018 at 23:40
I don't even get the appeal of mobile games. I've never felt any desire to play any games on my phone, apart from one time several years ago when I had an old Windows Mobile device with a stylus which could run Lemmings.
The screen is too small and the controls too awkward to play anything meaningful. If I'm bored with my phone, I'd rather just read a book on it.
Maybe I just haven't met any good phone games?
There's also the fact that the Play Store is so filled with apps and has no good way to filter or find anything that it's usually not even worth trying to find anything there.