TBE on 24/9/2009 at 09:34
agwpt, your assessment of the situation is a bit on the confrontational side, yourself. Here you go giving gunsmoke advice on how to not provoke, and you're provoking him in the mean-time.
Yeah, you're right that he should been quiet, and gone over to where they parked the car, and said something like, "Hey guys, how's it going? We have a lot of little kids running around here, can you watch your speed in the parking lot next time? Thanks dudes."
If the dude was alone, I'd have been just as confrontational as gunsmoke. When there are more people than I can handle, I take approach like above. But if there is only one person being a jerk, I'll confront them aggressively, and let them know I'm not taking their shit. Of course, I'm built kinda large, so I do have a little advantage over the average size man, and most people I've confronted about things, they've listened, or at least left me alone.
I try to give the non-confrontational approach as I'm getting older. I notice that a lot of younger people tend to listen to the calm dude who's politely chewing their ass.
SD on 24/9/2009 at 09:45
I just think it's a shame he was only carrying a knife and no piece. If he'd iced any one of those oxygen thieves he would have got a big hurrah from me.
Matthew on 24/9/2009 at 10:46
Quote Posted by Tocky
Eh. It's hard to remember not to do something stupid. I was waiting for my wife to get off work, just reading a book on a bench, when a car drove by and someone shouted FAGGOT at me. I stood and walked to the edge of the road and flipped them off. They stopped and I watched the four argue animatedly back and forth. They drove on. I have a wife and kids depending on me and I do something asinine. I have the luck of Gump somehow.
The last time someone gave me a drive-by insult was a few years ago. Suddenly the driver realised that I was actually on the same course as he was at uni (learning to be lawyers) and we both knew each other pretty well. He apologised the next day - but he's never getting briefed by me and I'm sure he knows it. Way to lose cash money sucker.
gunsmoke on 24/9/2009 at 15:12
Quote Posted by aguywhoplaysthief
Let me first say that you were in the right (speeding through residential neighborhoods is dangerous), and it's good that you didn't get seriously injured, but I'm sorry to say that you're a bit dim, and it's completely your fault that this happened.
There are bucketloads of juiced up brain stems driving Mustangs around - this is a constant, not a variable. What is a variable is not acting like a jackoff alpha male and challenging random strangers in an agressive manner; that is something that you can control, and something that you obviously did.
People get into confrontations with monkeys like these by being A) a pussy, or B) a challenger. The manner in which you carry yourself, and the way you confronted these guys comes across quite clearly from your posts, PFC Pistol Grips. Normal people with some base level of sophistication when managing other "humans" understand that there are ways that you can nudge the behavior of others without causing a blowup. Yelling at people with challenging body language is not one of them.
You don't have to "ignore" dumbass behavior. It was possible to have delivered a message to this guy in such a way that there would have been a chance (however small) that he actually may have showed a modicum of caution when entering residential areas in the future. Either you were incapable or doing that or (more likely I suspect) just got pissed-off and acted from the same instincts that Mr. Mustang was acting from, and that's why there were brass knuckles and knives in this story.
I feel quite confident when I say (and you probably know this) that you're exactly the personality type that puts brass-knuckles into the sides of people's head, only your testicles have wrinkled enough that it takes a bit more to get going.
But, you're from Ohio, so I can understand. We need to stop letting you people decide our elections.
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There are dozens of small children and a ton of pets in my condo complex. There are huge-ass speedbumps and 10 mph speed limit signs everywhere for a good reason. I was actually in the exact spot that is a school bus stop for ~ 10 small kids weekday morning and afternoons.
Moral of the story? Just ignore dumbass behaviour. People are a lot more likely to be violent about little shit than they used to be. At my age, I don't need this shit. I am not 20 years old anymore, and it isn't cute showing up to work with bandaged heads. Plus, I actually feel bad for beating him just as bad. I am just over the chest beating, testoserone laden, conflicts. No one wins, and society becomes the unwilling 'loser'.
I figured someone would try to tell me who I am. No, I am not this-
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I feel quite confident when I say (and you probably know this) that you're exactly the personality type that puts brass-knuckles into the sides of people's head,
How would you know anyway? Let alone enough to be quite confident? I blow off what little steam I do have in extrremely constructive ways. I help train inner city kids the art of pugilism (for free @ the local rec. center). My girlfriend and I exercise together (I used to be a part-time personal trainer at the gym, and I am guiding her in a program), get out and enjoy the beauty of nature by hiking with my gf and dogs, playing basketball, volleyball, and play in a softball league, shoot at a firing range or on my family's 300+ acres of woodlands @ my target range with a bulldozed backstop (safety first), ride the quads with my best friend's daughter, and take my various nieces and nephews and/or friend's kids on my brand new (bought last month!!!) boat
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http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4548/pic011i.jpgI don't know about you. but I am trusted by literally dozens of people to watch/spend time with their children, pet and/or house sit, and have always been known for my honesty, integrity, and most of all my ability to get along with damn near anybody. I am likely one of the most mellow folks you will ever meet.
Besides, I don't make ignorant cheap shots about home states. There are quite a few prominent Ohioans even here @ ttlg (I know at least one who posted in this this very thread). Way to be prejudiced. That's definitely a character trait I want MY voting majority to have!!!:rolleyes:
And yes, I should have ignored it. Walking over like Ward Cleaver isn't going to get through any better than my poor decision to yell at them. the point is simply they can't be reasoned with, regardless of the tone.
aguywhoplaysthief on 24/9/2009 at 16:19
I'm not saying that you don't do good things, and I'm also not saying that you aren't a lawful or trustworthy person, but people who avoid tricky situations don't have a pistol grips shotgun by their bedside, and carry a semi-auto pistol, and a self-defense knife, and train as a boxer, and spend time training their dogs to "go home", and narrate their tales like a Tom Clancy novel, and show pictures of their scars going "yeah, look at me!" This isn't how an average person lives their life, this is the behavior of a whacked-out control freak who secretly can't wait for shit to go down. Just saying.
This is maybe acceptable if you're a policeman, but judging by all the cops I've met who didn't work in high-income areas, they're pretty much just like criminals except they have a firmer grasp on long-term planning and/or Dad beat some nutty "lawful" code into them when they were 5.
EDIT: One more thing. The reason I'm going over this is because I don't like it when people do shit, then act all innocent like they were victims (not that I haven't done it before once or twice :)). Yeah, these guys were assholes, but a good, solid attitude adjustment on your part (you've recognized the judgemental error here, which is why I'm not going over it) would have avoided this entire situation.
Briareos H on 24/9/2009 at 16:24
your posts reek of aggressivity and resentment which makes their point hard to take seriously if not void
AR Master on 24/9/2009 at 16:27
goddamnit aguy shut the fuck up
gunsmoke you're a pretty cool guy eh get in fights and doesnt afraid of anything
seriously your tale was pretty badass, kudos for being a man and standing the fuck up for yourself instead of cowering or offering your wallet or crying like most "men" would do nowadays. I'm a little disappointed that you didnt slice the one's jugular open but maybe next time
anyone who thinks you only get into fights by being a) a pussy or b) a challenger has never actually had to deal with savages like these. this isnt a fucking duel where two gentlemen decide on rules and perhaps agree to fisticuffs should the first shots miss, these are usually drugged up, nothing to lose violent savages who are more like dogs than human and figure they need to show off their perceived dominance to whomever may be watching
should've at least relinquished their cellphone/wallet for your troubles though
june gloom on 24/9/2009 at 16:27
Quote Posted by aguywhoplaysthief
This is not 'Nam man. It's Ohio. There are rules.
Clearly you do not live in Ohio.
aguywhoplaysthief on 24/9/2009 at 16:48
Quote Posted by Briareos H
your posts reek of aggressivity and resentment which makes their point hard to take seriously if not void
I'll admit that I'm rather grumpy this week. Good thing I don't carry around a concealed firearm!
I'll be honest, there is a bias I have, and it certainly may color my view, but people who carry concealed weapons, and aren't policemen or a woman, are a danger to society. That fact that I live somewhere where I (me!) can easily get a concealed carry and a firearm? This shit is crazy, and the people who get them are crazy, but I'll cut some slack if you live around a constand supply of meth addicts. :)
AR Master on 24/9/2009 at 17:05
oh no!!!!
a g-g-g-g-g-gun?????
*faints*
m-my smelling salts...
