LesserFollies on 12/1/2009 at 00:48
Quote Posted by 37637598
Bare with me on this one;
First off, learn the difference between
bear and
bare and stop inviting people to get naked with you. ;) /nits
Second off, you want to make films and you haven't seen either Heathers OR Jacob's Ladder??? I suspect you have a lot of homework to do yet.
Muzman on 12/1/2009 at 01:10
The Twilight thing is because, while I haven't seen it and don't plan to, his description of the main character fits every press bio of Bella Swan I've ever seen (minus domestic violence and urge to die). The dialogue too seems roughly at the same degree of awkward-clever high school romance.
Given the high minded goals of these things it's often effective to point out "this is roughly the level you appear to be at (minus romantic vampire bollox), is that where you want to be?". It may well be, who knows.
Bit surprised no one complained about Sliding Doors. The only connection there is competing what-if? scenarios.
Also Heathers, while this can't really be measured, I'd bet it did more to reduce teen suicide than a million after school special type stories.
june gloom on 12/1/2009 at 01:21
The problem is that Bella Swan is a thinly veiled Mary Sue with no redeeming characteristics whatsoever.
Muzman on 12/1/2009 at 01:26
One of your planes just hit you in the face dude.
june gloom on 12/1/2009 at 04:22
That's 'cuz it apparently was a stealth jet.
Stitch on 12/1/2009 at 05:14
Wait, the main protagonist in the Twilight vampire series is named Bella Swan?
That's ridiculously awesome. I take it she hangs out with best friends Siouxsie Lestat and Velvet Von Nightfall?
jtr7 on 12/1/2009 at 05:18
Quote Posted by dethtoll
That's 'cuz it apparently was a stealth jet.
Silent...and yet deadly.
:eww:
june gloom on 12/1/2009 at 06:44
Quote Posted by Stitch
Siouxsie Lestat
way funnier than it has any right to be
37637598 on 13/1/2009 at 07:12
I never said I'm a good writer. I'm not even a writer, let alone a 'good' one. I just had an idea and jotted it down. The 'writer' in this project is reviewing the screenplay and re-writing dialogue, editing the story, making things much better than I would have the brain capacity to... Exactly.
Queue... If you're comparing me to a stone-cold hillbilly, you must have read wrong. The main male character isn't named chuck, he's not a diesel mechanic, and his highschool sweetheart isn't a tractor... Nor is it a sheep, nor his sister named sony.
I'm not looking to win a writers award, and I don't have much of a passion for writing, nor any desire to improve, other than my frequent grammar and punctuational eff-ups. I'm just hoping some creative people can read this story, use their imagination to make it perfect in their mind, and perhaps share the outcome. I've had a majority of positive responses from a very broad demographic, and many new ideas and point-outs which help me improve the quality of the story. Even if this story is low grade, I need to have something to work on this summer. If you want to write me a story to turn into a movie, write it, post it, I'll make it instead. Otherwise, continue gaining enjoyment from pointing out my spelling errors. I have some interest from a very good source, and the possibility of a small $5,000 fund for this project, so of course the quality matters to me, but I'm not the expert writer. I'll leave that up to the appropriate persons.
On another note, I'm still young. I have plenty of time to catch up on watching movies, but I'm not going to wait on that.
Queue on 13/1/2009 at 14:30
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...Otherwise, continue gaining enjoyment from pointing out my spelling errors.
At what time did I ever point out a spelling error? I'm appalled by the content, and the idea.
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Queue... If you're comparing me to a stone-cold hillbilly, you must have read wrong. The main male character isn't named chuck, he's not a diesel mechanic, and his highschool sweetheart isn't a tractor... Nor is it a sheep, nor his sister named sony.
Okay, the first rule to writing well is it to actually understand analogy. If one can't see the metaphor, then one shouldn't even attempt to write (even if it's just for fun).
I don't mean to be a prick here, and don't take this too personally, but you are what is destroying the idea of literature. And by saying "you", it's not "you" as a physical-being. I'm making an analogy toward the attitude:
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... I don't have much of a passion for writing, nor any desire to improve, other than my frequent grammar and punctuational eff-ups.
This statement leads me to question: why? What are you doing then? You see, here is the problem. Too many people out there are doing what they consider to be
writing without ever once trying to understand exactly how to write, or the reason to write. Writing is the ultimate form of expression in that it is a direct connection to the writer's inner thoughts. Writing happens when one poises a question and tries to, through story, find an answer. It is the by-product of the writer's thought process and imagination, thus yeilding some sort of truth in the end.
Now, there is nothing wrong with you are doing. Everyone learns to write better by starting with an idea and then making mistakes, understanding the mistakes, and learning from the mistakes; but you keep those mistakes to yourself until you improve. Yet, you admit freely that you have no desire to improve, no desire to make something better (you'll leave that up to other people), thus excluding you from ever contributing something of value in the grander sense of literature. Instead, you rush off and post your resulting screenplay without having studied how to write a screenplay (you simply downloaded the software), or learning how to write for that matter.
Now here is what happens when one does this, it perpetuates bad writing (giving us novels/films like Twilight). You see, other people will read it and think to themselves, "Hey, I can do that, too." And they will. Eventually, the markets becomes flooded with one horrid piece after another of either bad prose or bad content. If you don't believe me then go to one of those many websites that allow the teenie-boopers to "publish" their poetry by posting it themselves: it's all one "I'm-so-love-sick-I-want-to-die-because-I-need-to-live-through-somebody-else" piece of shit after another. They all say the same thing, and are as equally poor in execution. Why? Because little Susie reads what little Betty Sue wrote and thinks that it's brilliant, and that this is what she should write, and how she should write, too.
Now think of this, if you have all of these people being steeped in one piece of bad writing after another--what happens? Soon, all of the old editors and publishers will be gone, replaced by new editors/publishers familiar only with the awfulness in which they have been exposed, or that they themselves write. Don't you think that it's possible the quality may go down just a bit?
I don't know about you, but I worry about that.
Instead, we continue to
find the good in what everyone writes, no longer critiquing honestly by screaming, "This is bad, please, please, please stop."
So you see, it's nothing against you--it's the process.
...I have to call you out on "punctuational", though. That's not even a word!