My (almost) perfect thief experience...

Kristijonas on 30/12/2016 at 23:51

Thank you for sharing your experience. Sadly I don't have 100 euros to spare. I bought a cheap LG IPS of fullHD and 75hz. I wish I had a 75hz VA monitor though!

PsymH on 31/12/2016 at 10:05

I had a Samsung VA monitor for some years ago. The first time it was a very great game experience. Good blacks, but not good colors. 1080p on a 27".

But I don't still understand the problem with dark scenes and OLED. Please can somebody give me a example pic or game location, where can I check this myself?

mikjames on 31/12/2016 at 18:30

Va monitors have ghosting/blur issues, particularly with high contrast content like thief.

Tried a Benq Va in the past and it had much better contrast than a Tn panel.
Nothing can beat an oled, crt, or even a late model plasma panel for contrast though, and all of them have much better motion performance than any lcd, especially Va.

If you're set on lcd, you really need to move up to local dimming tvs to get decent contrast along with decent motion performance. No guarantees though, lcd's just aren't built for good contrast and good motion performance, local dimming is band aid solution.

I ran a Samsung F5300 plasma as a computer monitor for the longest time with no sign of burnin.
Panasonic has even better contrast than Samsung but I can't comment on burnin resistance. If you could track down a Panasonic 42" S60 it would be worth checking out for one heck of a Thief Display with 4000:1 measured contrast: (http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/panasonic/s60)

Update: Holy crap! I might have a chance at the Panasonic 55" St60 in my area, similar/slightly better black level to the Panasonic S60 but brighter for an astounding 7500:1 measured contrast, my Samsung f5300 was only 2700:1. Unfortunately the input lag is 55ms vs 30ms on the S60, but that's still better than the Samsung.

Update 2: Nevermind, the St60 actually has ~74 ms of input lag, completely unacceptable going from an Optoma hd25 with around 20ms of input lag.

Kristijonas on 2/1/2017 at 06:41

I'd recommend you go there with a laptop and a HDMI cable and ask them to let you try it. Panasonic and Optoma use different response time measurements (because there's no standard) so your curent 20ms may be worse than Panasonic 74. It's a long shot though, but worth testing?

mikjames on 2/1/2017 at 21:50

Quote Posted by Kristijonas

It's on the used market, Panasonic plasmas aren't sold retail anymore. The input lag measurements are averages from multiple third party reviewers (cnet, rtings, etc).
Input lag is definitely a problem on the st60.

PsymH on 1/2/2017 at 09:44

No problem, Abysmal. Now I see a little bit clearer.
Regarding to thief: Maybe I can use my camera to catch up a dark scene so we can compare ourselves?

Naked on 27/3/2017 at 01:28

I just got a laptop with an OLED screen and loaded up Thief Gold. The shadows look like they are drawn in on Paint. Looks awful.

PsymH on 27/3/2017 at 08:52

Gamma to low?

Naked on 28/3/2017 at 01:38

Quote Posted by PsymH

Gamma to low?

Gamma is not working under my Windows 10 OS. Any known fix?

PsymH on 28/3/2017 at 08:43

From this thread:

(http://ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145719)

Quote Posted by Jax64

If the gamma slider isn't working properly, you must edit cam_ext.cfg in your thief installation. Find d3d9 render options and find this line: ";d3d_disp_no_rgb10_buf". Remove the semicolon, save, and gamma will work. This works for Thief 1 and 2.