Music of punks and skinheads. - by Bulgarian_Taffer
Aja on 5/4/2006 at 22:45
yeah or maybe I'll just start talking to myself about Frank Zappa again.
TheGreatGodPan on 6/4/2006 at 02:58
I really like anarcho-punk and Oi! as well, although I haven't actually heard any Nazi stuff yet (California Uber Alles by Dead Kennedys, Blitzkrieg Bop & Today Your Love Tomorrow the World (I think he refers to himself as a Nazi in that one) by the Ramones and Master Race Rock by the Dictators are the closest, but they aren't serious). If I had to agree with the politics of what I listened to, I guess I'd be limited to Rush. According to the (
http://www.exile.ru/2006-February-24/scared_skins.html) Exile eastern europe has a lot more racist skins while in the west they're a much tinier minority (but they still manage to cause stuff like (
http://www.punknews.org/article.php?thold=-1&mode=nested&order=0&sid=16087) this, some pictures (
http://riotporn.blogspot.com/2006/03/punk-rock-riot.html) here, preventing GBH and others from playing). I've been thinking of getting my head shaved again because I don't feel like doing anything with my hair, but on the other hand I don't actually do anything with it as it is no matter how severe the bedhead. Others say shaving it is a horrible idea because I'm very scrawny and have been described as looking like an Auschwitz inmate when its shaved. I still haven't donned the braces 'n laces get-up yet, so I have yet lower depths of appearance ahead of me to sink to.
Goblin on 6/4/2006 at 10:49
I'm a big fan of Celtic Punk (or any folk/"ethnic"-themed punk for that matter, currently getting so fat into Gogol Bordello). When you take the politics and agenda out of punk, what's left is a vibrant sense of bon vivant (or joui de vrie if I'm going to be a wordwanker anyway). It's like the modern incarnation of a village get-together where everybody eats a shitload of food, gets fucking wasted and dance and beat the shit out of each other over ancient family fueds that are gotten out of the system in such a manner every harvest or fucking whatever. It's unabashed, unashamed passion in all things. It's leaving this button-down society on the weekend and loudly (and badly) singing folk songs arm-in-arm with your mates and getting weepy over the meaning and the message. It's carrying those meanings and messages from past generations with electric guitars and spastic drumming and dodgy pewter mugs you bought from the Vietnamese bargain shop down the road.
To end a post with the obligatory namechecking, I'm talking Dropkick Murphys [sic], Flogging Molly, The Pogues (scratch electric guitars and spastic drumming on that one, but MacGowen's floating in the same lifeboat here), Mill a h-Uile Rud.
You doubt me? Try loading up on scotch and beer and listening to the Dropkick Murphys cover of Paddy Reilly's epitomal ballad - Field of Athenry. You'll see what I mean.
Kalit on 6/4/2006 at 18:25
Why is there a post about punk and no mention of Bad Religion???
Aja on 6/4/2006 at 21:20
OR TALKING HEADS FOR THAT MATTER :mad: :mad:
Wyclef on 6/4/2006 at 21:40
oh no you didn't
TheGreatGodPan on 7/4/2006 at 01:41
Some of my favorites: The Misfits, the Damned, Fear, the Dwarves, G.B.H, Discharge, Black Flag, the Circle Jerks, the Cockney Rejects, the Dead Kennedys. A (at least partially punk) band I've recently really gotten into but haven't heard nearly enough from is (
www.schoolyardheroes.com) Schoolyard Heroes. I'm not sure if they're considered punk but Pinky Tuscadero's White Knuckle AssFuck has some crazy, funny, hard-rocking stuff, especially "Revenge of the Retard's Brother". Another one I like that no longer exists (and only made one full album) is Kill the Man Who Questions, and what really struck me on reading their web-page/memorial/obituary was how I represent pretty much everything they hate. That's an instance where never having been to one of their shows would be a good thing.
I'm not really into a lot of today's music scene (who needs other media sources when there's (
www.pandora.com) Pandora), but apparently there's something called "metalcore" thats big with the XTREME kids nowadays, but mostly rubs me the wrong way, like death/black metal. I'm fine with crossover-thrash like Agnostic Front and the Cro-Mags or punk-metal like Suicidal Tendencies and D.R.I, but a lot of this stuff just sounds like inhuman screams. The one exception is Shai Hulud, which I've heard one good song from ("This Wake I Myself Have Stirred", which isn't even especially pretentious by their standards). Another band with one song that I really enjoy and others that don't really standout is Slapshot, with (
http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/s/slapshot3528/firewalker387913.html) Crossover Sucks. I've come to chant parts of it in my head whenever something annoys me.
Kalit on 7/4/2006 at 02:12
I love Shai Hulud and Slapshot. Both are amazing bands. Too bad I never got a chance to see Shai Hulud.. I should really buy some of their albums. Everyone here should check out (
http://www.myspace.com/setyourgoals) Set Your Goals. Yes.. it's hardcore, not punk, but it has a huge pop punk influence, but they are such an amazing band. And hardcore and punk are pretty close to each other anyway.
killed on 7/4/2006 at 02:48
Wow, now that TheGreatGodPan posted, this thread actually isn't a joke. You poser pussy trend sheep!
No but seriously, he does make a point. The scenes are transferring much more to metal lately. Which, I listen to pretty sparingly. My brother is really into a lot of that as well as his friends. Lately, I have been going the other direction and have been getting into poppier, softer music. I've never been big on scenes anyway.
However, I do think there's huge potential in the underground punk bands even in today's scene. You just have to give them a chance and not take it too seriously. I'm not talking about Rancid, NOFX, or Vandals, or that sorta stuff. I consider that music more skate rock than actual punk. Which I guess could even be considered a sub-genre of punk. But, it's just terminology and not meant to offend the integrity or caliber of that style of music. To each his own.
For example, a while ago, I was really into Leftover Crack. I know a lot of original punks tend to look down on them because of the violent themes, but again, it's just a case of taking them too seriously. Singing about shooting kids at school, burning churches, smoking crack, and worshiping Satan is a schtick. They just try to think of the most offensive things they can to lure you in, and then usually provide some sort of point to it. (They play great live shows, they're a ton of fun, and were pretty nice to me when I met them.) However extreme or offensive you might find it, most good punk bands provide substance behind their music. (Note: I said
good)
That being said, a lot of other bands on (
http://www.alternativetentacles.com/) Alternative Tentacles are worth checking out. If you don't know, Jello Biafra (ex-lead singer of the Dead Kennedys who now mostly does spoken word) owns the Alternative Tentacles music label.
In my later teen years, I mostly listened to crust and the regular big punk bands. Bands like Nausea, G.B.H., Dead Kennedys, Morning Glory, DOA, Aus Rotten, Choking Victim, Misfits, Subhumans, etc.
Speaking of Subhumans:
I hadn't been to a punk show in quite some time, so about a week ago, I went out to a Subhumans show. I had seen them before, but they always play an amazing live show, plus (
http://www.myspace.com/worldinferno) World Inferno Friendship Society was opening that night. I had heard their music and they sounded so different I couldn't pass it up. I have to say World Inferno really stuck out. It was such a rare experience to see a group of 300 angsty, angry, punk kids with big smiles on their face when they started their set. I have never seen a band get punk boys to bow to a curtsying punk girl while asking "May I have this dance?".
What a strange band. Vaguely circus related, show tunes inspired, big band music? And all played for the punk crowd. I don't know how, but it worked. And amazingly well too. If I had not seen them live, I probably wouldn't be into them as much as I am now. If you're interested, I recommend the "East Coast Super Sound Punk of Today!" album. I ended up buying this cd at the show and getting it signed by the lead singer. Jack is quite the funny guy.
Another band I have been getting into is (
http://www.myspace.com/bombthemusicindustry) Bomb The Music Industry!. A silly band that's more on the side of skate rock than punk, although they have a larger range of influences than most. At first, I wrote these guys off as just a spastic band targeted at teenagers led by a guy who refuses to grow up. But now I realize they're a spastic band targeted at teenagers and people who refuse to grow up led by a guy who wont grow up, and are really fun to listen to. All songs are recorded and developed by a few people spread out along the east coast. They use the internet to tie everything together and occasionally go on tour, but I believe they use substitutions for the other band members. These guys really test my limits on what I'll listen to, which is a good thing since most punk fans are self righteous music nazis. BTMI! is so energized they usually border on annoying, but if you're in the mood, you'll be glad you listened.
Ok, so I've failed to know my audience this far, and I'm surprised you've read this much, or at least cared enough to skip down to the bottom. Anyway, take it for what it's worth. Maybe someone will get something from this.