d0om on 19/2/2008 at 14:47
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7252746.stm)
Quote:
The man accused of killing teenager Sally Anne Bowman has told a court he regrets having sex with her corpse.
I mean, he admits he had sex with a dead body, but that he didn't notice she was dead. Is anyone going to believe him? Its like being caught robbing a bank and claiming you noticed the door was open and couldn't help robbing it, but someone else must have smashed the door in. (Although obviously with added murder.)
Is this the most ambitious defence argument ever? Picture the scene with the barrister.
"So, they have evidence you had sex with her corpse, witnesses who saw you in the area, but no-one who saw you actually kill her? I have a plan.."
Peanuckle on 19/2/2008 at 16:11
Ugh. If I woke up after a drinking/drugging spree and found a dead body next to me, I'd probably... castrate myself then jump out the window. Yuck, just the thought of doing that :eww: :eww: :eww: :vomit:
d0om on 19/2/2008 at 16:37
(He probably raped then murdered her, BTW. Which is what he is accused of. His defence is that he found the body.)
Vivian on 19/2/2008 at 16:52
Another part of his defence is that it was a complete coincidence that his DNA was found on a (
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7250896.stm) lady who was raped and stabbed eight times in Australia. Sounds like a nice guy to me, sure he's innocent.
june gloom on 19/2/2008 at 17:17
Just what I needed to see when I woke up today.
SubJeff on 19/2/2008 at 17:48
I like to see the other side of things like this because just occasionally there is another explanation.
Plausible explanations - the guy had sex with the stab victim in Oz but before she was attacked (by someone else) and he could have had sex with this other girl thinking she was just drunk. People have sex with really drunk comatose girls guys, you know this happens. Doesn't make him a nice guy (far from it) but if it did go down like this then what? What should he be charged with? Not rape since she was already dead surely. Hmmm. Tis a difficult one.
All things considered - he probably did kill her imho. Still...
Matthew on 19/2/2008 at 18:25
He'd be charged with sexual penetration of a corpse, probably (can't remember if that section of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 is in force yet).
d0om on 19/2/2008 at 18:47
doesn't desecrating a corpse have a harsher sentence than raping a person or something equally crazy?
Shug on 20/2/2008 at 04:59
over my dead body!
Myoldnamebroke on 20/2/2008 at 06:36
Sexual penetration of a corpse is 6 months to 2 years, so no, not higher than rape.
On these facts at least theoretically you could have him for attempted rape, which would be the same (maximum) sentence - he's tried to rape her, and has basically done so - it's only that she's dead that means he hasn't, and your own mistake of fact making it impossible to commit the offense is no defense.
I know there's a US case on the same point where raping someone only to find out they were dead was still an attempt, haven't been able to find an English one but it's 6:40 and I've not looked hard :P
