SD on 20/6/2006 at 06:52
Quote Posted by paloalto
Freedom fighters?The insurgents?I'm quite sure the Iraqis as a whole do not want to live under the type of government that the insurgents would institute were they to gain power.
The type of government that their friends and neighbours in Palestine just voted in, you mean?
Tenkahubu on 20/6/2006 at 08:53
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But peacekeepers are soldiers too. If the role is peacekeeping then they are trying to save lives as doctors also are trying to save lives.
This doctor/soldier comparison is very strange, but to stick with it - then the new doctors in hopsital Iraq come with up-to-date degrees and the latest equipment, but have made enough `mistakes` to actually increase the death rate.
Would this be acceptable in a hospital, accidental or not?
"Well the surviving patients are probably happier, or will be in the future sometime."
Would that excuse wash with the hospital directors?
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I do think accidental killings should be judged differently than deliberate ones. Doctors accidentally kill people all the time but we tolerate it because they save a lot of people doing the same basic thing.
=poor analogy.
BEAR on 20/6/2006 at 16:07
Quote Posted by Pyrian
Nonsense. A doctor mostly strives to kill one organism to save another - sometimes he kills both.
I dont care how close you're analogies sound, your're still wrong. Ask a doctor if they like being compared to a war and see what they say. If we're playing doctor then we are shitty doctors at that. How often do doctors force their way into you're house and kill half your family when they are 'trying to help you' against your will and then cant understand when you are mad at them? How often does it cost the doctor billions of dollars he doesnt have to help people that dont want help?
paloalto on 20/6/2006 at 17:51
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
The type of government that their friends and neighbours in Palestine just voted in, you mean?
Yeah.It is always smart policy when your trying to get your own state to vote in a party which contains in its constitution the desire to destroy another state.
But Iraqis are not Palestinians.They have a country and have a more secular history.Plus they aren't being used as pawns by the other radical fanatic Islamic states to destroy Isreal.
TheGreatGodPan on 20/6/2006 at 20:02
Stronts, I was mistaken about civilian deaths and I'm glad you pointed out where I was wrong. I don't feel so irritated about eating crow because at least I didn't bet actual money.
Deep Qantas on 4/7/2006 at 00:09
"It's always better when the oppressed don't fight back, isn't it?"