snobel on 17/4/2013 at 06:09
NH, how do you feel about the MP being absorbed by a 'fat' version of the Sneaky Upgrade? As Beleg mentions this would also include the 'Gold' (merged levels + classic briefing movies) mod. Each mod would get a 'middle layer', similar to NewDark's mod_path, so you can switch them on or off easily and play FMs on top of each mod. Whether they can be combined remains to be figured out, the block file format is somewhat inflexible...
It should be relatively easy to recreate the patches by comparing a MP installation to an original installation of the game. I'd try to provide the same installer options, but some stuff, like removing the loot percentage, would be implemented as a general tweak. I could also try to make a difficulty modifier tweak, for players who find it too hard.
In any case this is a long term project, but with your permission I can at least look into it.
Edit: Permission obtained by PM. :)
Stillwater Giant on 28/4/2013 at 11:20
does this work with the Sneaky Upgrade or are there any problems or a specific way that I must install them to get them both to work together?
snobel on 28/4/2013 at 14:19
It's in the Sneaky Upgrade readme:
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Does it work with the Minimalist Project?Surprisingly well, as long as no GUI tweaks are in use.
If you install the alternative menu background, then the text will be off in widescreen.
Install Minimalist first, then the Upgrade, then use TDS Tweaker to reapply the loot percentage and frob colour tweaks
If you want the loot percentage and frob colour tweaks, then be sure to read (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138607&p=2127977&viewfull=1#post2127977) this post, because only the updated version of Myagi's patcher will work. (Previous versions would actually slightly corrupt the executable.) You can use it either directly or with TDS Tweaker as described.
In about a week a new SU will be out, which will show the MP menu correctly. It also has a built-in tweak for the loot percentage - but not yet for the frob colour.
I now have New Horizon's permission to include MP stuff, so at some point you'll hopefully just have to tick a box in the SU installer...
Alic on 10/5/2013 at 20:47
Thank you so much for making this Mod!
This great program along with John P's texture pack has allowed me to enjoy Deadly Shadows a lot more.
Deadly Shadows is how I got into the Thief series, and I loved it to bits, that is until I played Thief I and II....after that I couldn't bring myself to play DS again :laff:
But this Minimalist project brings back some of the visual flair of the Looking Glass titles, and greatly improves the more flawed design choices of the game (e.g. the sluggish movement, HUD and that horrible, horrible, blue frob highlight) which must have been no small task. Hats off to New Horizon and all those involved! :thumb:
I'd highly recommend this mod to anyone considering getting it. Of course you'll have to experiment with it and fiddle around with the settings to suit your preference, but it's worth it, it made Deadly Shadows worth playing again :cool:
soopytwist on 23/6/2013 at 13:16
This seems to be the thread that was posted in most recently so I figure I'd ask my question here.
I've just installed John P's Collective Texture Pack. Will installing the Minimalist mod cause problems after having installed the high red texture pack? Both mods make changes to menus/HUD etc so will there be incompatibilities?
One other thing. I mod games myself, i.e I make my own modifications as well as installing other peoples. Is there a guide of all the changes the minimalist mod makes and how to tweak them further or turn off or restore to defaults etc? I'm mainly referring to the changes that make the game harder such as changes to creeping.
Stillwater Giant on 25/6/2013 at 09:10
So I installed this mod and it fixed a few things that annoyed me about DS.
However one thing that it didn't change that I would of liked it to is that when you are crouching you are not silent ever even when creeping.
Is there any way that I change it so that it will be like this,can I just tweak an ini file or something?
Renault on 25/6/2013 at 13:38
Quote Posted by snobel
this would also include the 'Gold' (merged levels + classic briefing movies) mod.
I did some searching but couldn't locate any info on this mod - where do I find it?
Brazilian Taffer on 14/10/2013 at 21:26
I recently reinstalled Thief: Deadly Shadows been using the 1.4.1 version of the Minimalist Mod and I must say that it's actually better than I remembered it. I can't even begin to wonder how much work New Horizon had to go through to bend the awkward consolized mess that was the TDS interface and turn it into the sleek beautiful interface we've got now. I appreciate the work.
But... Not all is flowers. I ghosted the few couple of levels of Thief 3 without the Minimalist mod installed, but when I decided to take the next mission (the Hammerite one) in a more traditional fashion, I found myself unable to knockout any of the hammers with the Blackjack.
After a bit of trial and error, I've found out that you need to be in a rather arbitrary positioning to knock them out, otherwise you just thwack them with the blackjack and alert them. I couldn't get the 'hang' of blackjacking them, the angle and distance you need to be just seems to vary slightly by each guard, each facing and so on.
Uninstalling and re-installing, I think this feature is related to the removal of the dagger and blackjack raise, as it also affected the instant murder backstabs.
I looked around the forums and found no information whatsoever on how did the blackjack/dagger raise got removed. Does anyone know how any way to restore it and keep the rest of the mod working properly?
snobel on 15/10/2013 at 16:25
It's not a simple ini-file change as far as I know. I've been dissecting the Minimalist Project because I'm integrating it with my patch in the form of a general mod - you have much more control this way, but the 'enhanced' blackjacking is not available as a setting. :(
I'm going to ask New Horizon some questions though, so I'll add this one to the list.