PigLick on 28/3/2009 at 11:17
thats cos you so sexy
how can we resist
the smooth groove of
THE KOLYA
Kolya on 28/3/2009 at 11:35
blah, you're just crazy cos it's teh Saturday
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Jason Moyer on 28/3/2009 at 12:00
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
What makes the Last Supper meaningful is the cultural iconography.
Yeah, but there are a million paintings of Jesus and there's a reason that specific one transcends most/all of the others. That painting could be of Santa and his elves and I'd find it just as impressive.
And to further contribute absolutely nothing to this discussion, my favorite Douglas Adams quote of all time: "I tend to get very suspicious of anything that thinks it's art while it's being created."
AR Master on 28/3/2009 at 13:19
lots of spergin about painting in here
here is my opinion:
Thirith on 28/3/2009 at 13:30
Quote Posted by Tocky
Perhaps then that is why I take it as such an affront RBJ. The universal harmony is all about complexity and subtlety to me. I keep looking for subtlety that is not there. Nothing is simple and there the beauty lies. Loops and and tricks of psuedo cul de sacs where hope is all but lost except for the human spirit which says "no, there is more". There is humanity. There is beauty. There is knowledge. There is indominable spirit.
This, to be honest, makes it sound like your problem with Mondrian isn't so much the thinking behind his work, but that you disagree with it. Which is absolutely fair, but it's a different point from the one you made earlier. It's perfectly valid to criticise an artistic concept or theory, but I for one would find it dead boring if there was only art that I agreed with. Some of the art that has stayed with me most has rubbed me the wrong way.
Edit: For the record, a lot of the modern art that I've seen doesn't do much for me. Conceptually it's interesting to some extent, but especially postmodern art has a tendency towards being an ironic one-liner. At least I fail to see much resonance in it, and I share Tocky's annoyance with art/art criticism where the talking about it becomes immensely more important than the work itself. At the same time, I have always believed that blanket statements about any artistic movement are inadequate and uninteresting - every individual work of art deserves to be assessed individually. If it turns out to be facile, smug, oh-so-ironic crap, then it deserves to be criticised as such. But just because something doesn't immediately make you go, "Wow!" doesn't mean that there isn't merit to it - just as some wow!-inducing art can be great spectacle but essentially empty when you look at it in more detail.
Tocky on 28/3/2009 at 14:05
That was it raph. I could have sworn there was more depth and contrast at the time but maybe I'm not seeing it just now because my brain is throbbing. Please nobody touch it till the swelling subsides. Anyway there are multiple ways of seeing it a bit like cloud interpretation, close up bits and pieces (see the harleqin?) disconnected and some overall impressions like that of a face staring downward. I like it but maybe a lot of abstract art is like cloud interpretation.
And no Koyla. Damn my sentimental farts mine was not good. It merely had a hypnotic effect due to vanishing perspective of black and white checkered hallway being centered over the head of a fellow who, head in hands, had lost a chess game. Some art professor fairy just wanted my trouser snake or something. This was before Jere Allen came to Ole Miss. I like Jere as a person and artist except for his stump figures. He is respected in your country I believe and damned if I'm not rambling and the coffee is ready.
edit damnit: Thirith, I'll have to think about what you said, complexity needs simple for contrast afterall, and even the simplest things are made up of complex opposing energy and damn it is too early to think. Assessed individually definitely.
fett on 28/3/2009 at 14:46
Quote Posted by Tocky
Enlighten the ignorant. Please. It is the most noble thing the intelligent can do. It conveys a hope for transcendence.
If someone could start a thread about football with this as the OP, I might finally find a way to feel like an American. :(
Thirith on 28/3/2009 at 15:17
Tsk... As if an American would know about football.
:angel:
AR Master on 28/3/2009 at 15:41
100th post
this... this is art
Aja on 28/3/2009 at 15:49
I'll start the bidding at nine thousand dollars
