Microsoft announces Vista prices, specs (or, Wake up you dozy W******! pt. 2) - by oudeis
[NAUC]Chief on 12/9/2006 at 13:16
For anyone trying the RC1 ver (it's sooo much better than beta2 in it's resource management - eg you now have free resources:p ) who are using nvidia cards, if you update to nvidias official drivers you won't be playing many games because the performance is truly, truly terrible (the generic ms drivers however are reasonable, but still 50% the performance of XP's official nvidia drivers). Not that I got Thief2 running.
Either way I'm back on super speedy XP now where fps is slightly higher than 3 in modern games.
descenterace on 12/9/2006 at 13:21
I really doubt Vista uses 1GB of RAM, although I couldn't care less if it did. The important question is: how does total memory usage (including virtual memory) change when the system is under load? If RAM usage is close to 100% all the time but virtual memory usage remains at a steady zero, that's exceptionally good use of memory.
As for the price... £250 for Ultimate edition? That's about the same price as XP Pro had immediately after release.
Yes, it's ridiculous that an OS has an install footprint of 15GB, but that equates to about £7 worth of disk these days. 1GB of memory is standard (and pretty much required for playing games on XP). Every graphics card released in the last two years has 128MB of RAM (but features vary widely; the sooner vendors start making DX10-capable stuff the better, since DX10 cards MUST support ALL DX10 features CORRECTLY).
jprobs on 12/9/2006 at 13:34
Quote Posted by d0om
Most laptops only have 60-100GB of HD space. No way I am going to take up half my harddisk with vista!
Its ridiculous how bloated windows installs have been:
Win95:~50meg
Win98:~500meg
WinXP:~2GB
Vista:~40GB
Its just absurd!
It's all relative. I seriously remember people complaining about windows98 being a hog. It took a whole 250MB to install it and "you better be running at least 32MB RAM".... Today, you have a hard time finding a stick of RAM less than 256MB at any retail shop.
And, I installed Vista on an old 20GB hard drive I had lying around. It took 12GB to install. The typical hard drive in a new desktop has 160GB hard drive or bigger.
Laptop manufacturers will start putting larger hard drives in new laptops as soon as they start shipping them with Vista.
Just like the last 4 MS major OS releases, your current PC just became "OLD".
Rogue Keeper on 12/9/2006 at 13:53
Quote Posted by jprobs
The typical hard drive in a new desktop has 160GB hard drive or bigger.
OH REALLY.
Matthew on 12/9/2006 at 14:46
What's the average size of a laptop hard drive? I know that my work one's got about 40Gb split over two drives. Is that something around the standard size or will new laptops have to get serious upgrades to run Vista?
ilweran on 12/9/2006 at 15:24
Quote Posted by Uncia
Out of idle curiosity, how much do the comparative XP versions sell for?
In work we needed to buy a couple of new PC's, and looked into having them built for us and us buying XP Pro separately. We're a charity and can usually get discounts on software, but not on XP and it would have cost us £200 per copy. We ordered the PC's from PC World instead.
Bulgarian_Taffer on 12/9/2006 at 15:31
OK, commchat. We all know that Windows sux and Linux rulez, right? I have Kubuntu with all latest updates ( apt-get rulez ), I just had to update my sources.
I would delete my windows, however, there's no alternative for DirectX and most of the games won't run. Of course, there are emulators - wine, cedega, croosover, but I find emulating games kinda stupid and I'm pissed off when the emulator crashes.
Anyway, most of the time I use linux.
As for Mocro$oft, I've never seen more hypocritical company ( Windows Vista will run faster, but only if you meet the system requirements ).
[NAUC]Chief on 12/9/2006 at 15:44
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Of course, there are emulators - wine, cedega, croosover, but I find emulating games kinda stupid and I'm pissed off when the emulator crashes.
Wine Is Not an Emulator (WINE).
Matthew on 12/9/2006 at 16:06
That's fine. However, can we not have this thread degenerate into another piece of Linux v Windows craziness?
ignatios on 12/9/2006 at 16:21
Windows Hataz In Neverending Ejaculation (WHINE)
