Renzatic on 11/1/2018 at 05:09
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So... how does one play MGS V?? Why are there 2 games, and are you supposed to play both?
To simplify things maybe a little too much, Ground Zeros is the demo, while Phantom Pain is the main game. You could skip GZ entirely without missing out on much of anything, though playing it gives you a much more indepth account of how Big Boss ends up in the hospital.
Sulphur on 11/1/2018 at 05:32
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So... how does one play MGS V?? Why are there 2 games, and are you supposed to play both? Are we missing anything important if we don't play Revengeance?
Ideally, you play MGS V GZ/PP after Peace Walker since it's a direct continuation of that. I've yet to get to Peace Walker, though, and haven't lost out a whole lot of the story for V, so I wouldn't say it's mandatory for max enjoyment.
As for Revengeance, no, you're not missing anything important story-wise unless you really like Raiden and want to know more about his past/see what he can really do in that cyborg ninja getup. As a
game, though, I'd classify it as essential if you're into the genre, yeah. It's got the greatest slicing and dicing feedback loop since forever, and never has crushing spines felt more rewarding in a game.
henke on 11/1/2018 at 06:46
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Then I have the PS3 remasters of 2 and 3. (I have both in PS2 versions as well but I don't necessarily see the point in worrying about that distinction)
If you have the HD collection then I guess you have Peace Walker as well, which as Sulph says is the direct predecessor to MGS V. I didn't think much of Peace Walker though, never finished it, but it's worth have a short look at. (Also,
some annoying people *coughdethtollcough* would say that the HD versions of the games are RUINED because there is a lake at the end of MGS3 where the reflection is messed up for like 3 seconds.)
About GZ, if you can find it cheap, definitely play it. It's just one mission, but it's a really good one, and it's certainly a more fun introduction to MGS V than the proper game's 1 hour lightly-interactive intro cutscene.
icemann on 11/1/2018 at 08:04
I've played through the original psp version of Peace Walker. The game is ok. Much of the gameplay of it is very similar in MGS 5, but more open worldy in MGS 5, where as Peace Walker goes with sections.
Malf on 11/1/2018 at 09:48
The interesting thing about Ground Zeroes is that as a stealth game, I'd say it's actually better than The Phantom Pain, thanks to being a more focussed experience. It also helps that you can never get over-powered in the gear department. While I dearly love the Fulton mechanic in TPP, it makes things a LOT easier. Having to play Ground Zeroes without it, where the only ways to permanently remove a soldier from the battle were either killing them or calling in the chopper to extract them makes for a much more tense experience.
Late Edit:
This also reminded me about my Phantom Pain development theory. While it's still an excellent game, it's no secret that it's unfinished.
When you get around to playing the second "half" of the game, you find that most of the missions are remixes of older ones, with labels such as Subsistence, Extreme and Total Stealth.
My theory is that Kojima initially intended for each main mission to be replayable in all of these modes, but ran out of dev time / good will.
This would have done a LOT to address my comment that TPP is less focussed. It would still allow that overpowered playthrough with all the upgraded gear, but it would have also allowed players to really test their stealth skills by replaying missions with the aforementioned modifiers.
Volitions Advocate on 11/1/2018 at 14:30
Thanks for the input.
Yes, Peace Walker is part of the HD collection. I remember the complaints, but I always heard that while the Silent Hill collection totally changed the experience, that the MGS collection was just fine, if nothing to get excited about.
Maybe by the time we're done MGS3 we will decide whether or not to play Peace Walker.
Honestly I didn't know that Big Boss was the star of MGSV. But I guess that might make sense considering I felt that MGS IV had a pretty strong sense of finality to it, from what I remember anyway, it's been years.
Thirith on 11/1/2018 at 14:35
One unique thing Peace Walker had was the coop mode. I would've loved to see it return in MGS5, but alas...
Malf on 11/1/2018 at 14:43
Well there's that new one in development with co-op and zombies, but I'm not holding out much hope for it.
EvaUnit02 on 11/1/2018 at 19:39
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Are we missing anything important if we don't play Revengeance?
It's a non-canon. You can skip if you like but you'll be missing out on the sweet Platinum Games action.
Tony_Tarantula on 13/1/2018 at 02:38
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It's a non-canon. You can skip if you like but you'll be missing out on the sweet Platinum Games action.
And you'll be missing out on the nanomachines, son.
