Mechanist characters. - by massimilianogoi
massimilianogoi on 21/5/2008 at 07:07
Hy, I search for some artist that re-design the mechanists for Thief - Deadly Shadows.
I mean of AI characters. In Thief - Deadly Shadows the AI maps are different from Thief - The Metal Age: in the first one, the maps are subdivided in two parts: face and the rest of the body (two different maps skins aingle AI), the last merge everything in a squared map.
What I search is someone, well skilled to drawing (I refer particularly to the artists that exposed on thief-thecircle.com their drawing works) that re-design the mechanist faces and wearing in a stile more as possible similar to Thief - Deadly Shadows (particularly the black-skinned characters):
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http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3024/changefl2.gifInline Image:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2283/change2oq5.gifThe work should be:
1-) correcting and/or adding somatic lines;
2-) adding to the face the skin-effect, as the one in the hammerite map;
3-) adding to the green parts of the uniform the cloth-effects, as the one in the hammerite map;
4-) splitting the drawings of the uniform in two parts: the upper, and the lower, as the one in the hammerite map.
I hope to be well expressed :)
Here is the maps package: (
http://digilander.libero.it/maxath/thief/1.zip) http://digilander.libero.it/maxath/thief/1.zip
massimilianogoi on 15/6/2008 at 11:38
> Scourge wrote:
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> I have read your topic at TTLG. Main objective is clear for me - new skins for mechanist characters, in order to make them be available in Thief3 FMs. The most important question - what did you mean, when you wrote "thief 3 style"? Did you mean, that:
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> 1. Style of costumes and costume details for mechanists must be redesigned completely, to look closer to hammerites cloth from Thief3.
No, I'm not skilled in design, but I believe you can modify in some way the existing mechanist textures.
> 2. Classic (Thief 2) style must be saved, while quality and details number must be improved up to Thief3 level.
Yep!! And somethind like improving the existing mechanist textures with some characters.
For example, the "textile fabric effect" like this:
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http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9561/detailfh1.gifwith the difference that the cloth should be green, assuming that the mechanists wears green cloth dressing and some yellow metal furnishing (a kind of weird armor).
More: if you enlarge the Thief 2 textures of the package, you can see that they hasn't the same detail level of the ones of Thief 3, so it should be good some details improving.
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> And second question - what 3d models will be used? Hammerites models from Thief3?
No. I take this opportunity to expand on the subject-matter:
The mechanist soldiers (or guards?) wears some kind of neckwear that the hammerites havent, see the pics below:
It seems also they're wearing some kind of epaulets, that augments their shoulders, maybe for protection... or maybe for a simple error of designing the model, but I think it should be fine to keep also this :)
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http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6053/1layer1fu4.jpgInline Image:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1653/2layer1yd1.jpgIn this pic you see how also the dimension of the nose have to be enlarged:
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http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6676/3layer1ve4.jpgHere you see well the neckwear:
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http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/1839/4layer1gk6.jpg> -----
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> Hello. Well, brief and to the point
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> Rgds.
Beleg Cúthalion on 15/6/2008 at 13:32
Have you tried simply to color the TDS hammer skins, to get a first impression? Something like this:
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http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/1461/p9skw8zy_jpg.htm)
Inline Image:
http://s7.directupload.net/images/080615/temp/p9skw8zy.jpg(sure looks like curd soap)
The next question would be if you'd rather start with the high-res textures made by JohnP*. Unfortunately I have barely talent to get some wall textures working, but I think without high-res ones this would be a waste of time and work.
*Have I missed some announcement or why is his homepage down?
massimilianogoi on 16/6/2008 at 00:41
These definitely are not the currect color. More: I am not an artist of drawing, so I leave these workes to those who are well skilled. I am a programmer, and a bit 3D designer, and there's a big difference between 3DSMax and a paint canvas :).
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
The next question would be if you'd rather start with the high-res textures made by JohnP*. Unfortunately I have barely talent to get some wall textures working, but I think without high-res ones this would be a waste of time and work.
These textures are available also separately??? Because I downloaded them and installed, and it seems that they are functionally only in the ibt maps, no textures to manipulate. :erg:
New Horizon on 16/6/2008 at 02:43
I don't think beleg was trying to get the color exactly right, he was just trying to show you that it is very easy to change the color. That's essentially all that needs to be done really, you can't use the original Thief 2 files as they won't match up with the models in TDS.
Judith on 16/6/2008 at 08:18
John's installer is actually a self extracting archive, you can unpack its contents to desired folder and browse through it.
Btw. I wouldn't count on anyone will just do it for you. Learn a bit more about image/texture editing, working with layers, etc. It's not that hard ;)
Beleg Cúthalion on 16/6/2008 at 12:59
You should find the JohnP textures in your game's Dynamically-Loaded-folder (at least when the game is running). From there you can copy them to your Thief3Edit setup.
Oh, and the fabric colour is quite correct. :D But again we suffer from the little attention this whole thing gets. :erg:
New Horizon on 27/6/2008 at 03:01
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
Oh, and the fabric colour is quite correct. :D But again we suffer from the little attention this whole thing gets. :erg:
Yup, I thought the fabric color looked fine actually. It's right on to be honest. Not sure why he/she would say it's wrong.
massimilianogoi on 28/6/2008 at 00:57
A countersigning denotation of the Mechanists is GOLD. Gold were on their armours, and gold where in their undercoat. And here I see no gold. That's why I say that's wrong.
And the azure shoud be more dark.
(@ NH: I'm male, dude :angel: )
