Ender9594 on 5/6/2003 at 07:12

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I have just become a master for the telvanni and I did a few chores for my patron aryon(sp?) after I did those chores I asked about advancement and he starts saying that I missed my chance to become the magister because I became a master. I loaded an older game and went back before I was made master and he still says I have to get a mouth to represent me in council!

so basically it is saying that I need to get a mouth and therefor become a master before doing the chores to become magister but I can't become a magister because I'm a master! :confused:

Help!!!

Also I heard that there is a arch-magister position. Is that true?

Thanks for your time!:cheeky:

RyushiBlade on 5/6/2003 at 07:36

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Hmm... Taken from The UESP:

The bug/feature occurs when you try and advance to the last rank in the House and are told you cannot. It is supposed to start when you advance from the rank of Wizard when speaking to Master Aryon (in Tel Vos, use topic Magister):

I can grant you the rank of Master now. That will give you an equal place on the Telvanni Council. But if you aspire to a higher claim, I can also grant you the title of Magister. By accepting the title of Magister, you are announcing that you deserve the title of Archmagister more than Gothren who currently holds that rank. Which will it be?

However, some people have mentioned that they have problems advancing to Archmagister even if they never choose to have this one time advance to Magister, leaving them quite stuck at the rank of Magister.

In order to advance, you are supposed to speak to Aryon again (topic Magister again).

You have foresworn the title of Magister... But perhaps you have changed your mind. Will you fight Archmagister Gothren and claim the title as your own?

You should choose to fight Gothren, kill him, and return to Aryon to be named as the Archmagister.

Again, however, some people have not been able to do this. The last option for those playing the PC version of the game is to cheat. Open the console using the ~ tilde key and enter the command:


PCRaiseRank "Telvanni"
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Hope that helps...

Ender9594 on 5/6/2003 at 07:47

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I think I got it now- I asked for advancement too early. Thanks for all your help! :cheeky:

Exile on 5/6/2003 at 08:44

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ack the problem is still there... if anyone has time please tell me how to become magister for the telvanni... thanks!

PCLowerRank "Telvanni"

You should then be a Wizard again, or possibly a Magister. If you become a Wizard, speak to Aryon about Advancement and he should give you the question. If he doesn't, simply

PCRaiseRank "Telvanni"

until you're Arch-Magister. If you want, kill Gothren just to make it official.

Striker on 5/6/2003 at 08:52

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Wait for the Game of the Year edition since this was fixed in a patch... :P

-Striker