Enchantermon on 25/10/2009 at 03:04
To be fair, Kolya is maintaining SBF, and he more than likely has real life commitments as well.
Kolya on 25/10/2009 at 03:04
Oh I'm sure people would volunteer if it didn't mean to do the mods' job while they keep it. And yeah, it's their job to update the hub, the FAQs and the game sites. That's what you're admin or moderator on a site for, to steer this ship. Personally I don't believe in this "let your users volunteer/do the work".
But we even had a competition for the hub design and nothing came from it. And at this point no new hub would be worth over 3 years waiting anyway.
theBlackman on 25/10/2009 at 03:34
Quote Posted by Enchantermon
To be fair, Kolya is maintaining SBF, and he more than likely has real life commitments as well.
True. We all do. Even the "mods" here. Granted the members may not feel that things move fast enough. But as a privately operated and maintained site, the powers that be do a pretty good job.
They too have a real life to contend with and may not cater to your every whim, but given the circumstances do a hell of a lot better job than many sites that are maintained by paid employees.
If you (a generic) or anyone don't feel that the "FREE" service they are getting is good enough. Go play in a different sandbox.
Enchantermon on 25/10/2009 at 23:10
Quote Posted by theBlackman
. . . but given the circumstances do a hell of a lot better job than many sites that are maintained by paid employees.
This is what gets under my skin; when volunteers do jobs so much better than paid employees, even when volunteers have a harder time doing it. I see this all the time in RL, too. I guess when the money starts getting doled out, some people decide that they should just do enough to make their bosses content, and leave the extra mile to be the road less traveled. I don't get it.
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But yeah, you can't really complain too much when you realize that it's all volunteer work.
theBlackman on 25/10/2009 at 23:21
Enchantermon
It's that same old song. When you ask somebody "How long have you worked here?" they say X many years when the truth of the matter is they did ONE YEAR worth of work X many times.
To my mind the "work ethic" has gone the way of the dinosaur.
Enchantermon on 25/10/2009 at 23:27
Too true. See, I was raised with a good work ethic: basically, do the best you can at whatever you do. I've striven towards that my whole life.
A couple weeks ago, one of my teachers at school told me, though not in so many words (I read between the lines), that the real world doesn't work like that, which I don't think I'll ever understand. :erg:
Nameless Voice on 26/10/2009 at 00:11
I think it might have something to do with the fact that many employers are now faceless corporations that have no respect for their employees. If the bosses are clueless and treat everyone like dirt no matter if they work well or poorly, there isn't much motivation to do a good job when doing a poor job gets you the same amount of pay and benefits.
In any case, it should go without saying that someone who volunteers to do something because they love it is more likely to do a thorough and dedicated job than someone who is doing it primarily for payment.
theBlackman on 26/10/2009 at 00:18
Quote Posted by Enchantermon
[...]one of my teachers at school told me, though not in so many words (I read between the lines), that the real world doesn't work like that, which I don't think I'll ever understand. :erg:
Or to paraphrase: "It's not who you know, it's who you blow". :ebil:
Enchantermon on 26/10/2009 at 01:54
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
I think it might have something to do with the fact that many employers are now faceless corporations that have no respect for their employees. If the bosses are clueless and treat everyone like dirt no matter if they work well or poorly, there isn't much motivation to do a good job when doing a poor job gets you the same amount of pay and benefits.
Very good point.
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
In any case, it should go without saying that someone who volunteers to do something because they love it is more likely to do a thorough and dedicated job than someone who is doing it primarily for payment.
Absolutely. I understand the desire to slack off whenever possible if you hate flipping burgers but you do it anyway just to pay the bills (although I still don't condone it), but I see this happening even when people are in a job that they enjoy. My teacher, when he said what he did, was in the midst of talking about me getting a job in the field I'm currently training for. I would think that if you love what you're doing, you would do your best regardless of whether you're getting paid for it or not. But then it also goes back to the first thing you said about the faceless corporations where everyone is a number, not a name, and there's little or no incentive for better performance.
Quote Posted by theBlackman
Or to paraphrase: "It's not who you know, it's who you blow". :ebil:
...which is another thing I hate about company politics.
As a side note, the last name of the teacher I've been mentioning is Blow. :p
