mars has had water flows.

Rug Burn Junky on 15/12/2006 at 17:55

Yeah, baby, she's got it

Agent Monkeysee on 15/12/2006 at 17:57

Quote Posted by Gorgonseye

Venus anyone?

Anyone?

Yeah that's a great idea. The surface is only hot enough to melt lead.

dj_ivocha on 15/12/2006 at 18:22

But it also rains sulfuric acid, so you can have car batteries and shit for free. :cool:

RocketMan on 15/12/2006 at 21:58

Quote Posted by Agent Monkeysee

We could literally irradiate the entire planet and it would be more hospitable than Mars. Mars is not an alternative to a fucked Earth because no matter how fucked Earth would get it's better than Mars.

Which means if we have the technology to live on Mars confortably we have the technology to live on Earth comfortably. My point is simply that Mars is not an alternative to Earth and the idea that Mars is even a remotely decent candidate if things got so bad we had to abandon ship is ludicrous. There are many reasons to explore and colonize other planets but "we need a lifeboat" is not one of them.

You're still not getting it...

You make a bunch of good points but you're assuming that since its more work to make a new planet habitable than to repair what we got then that's justification for not terraforming mars. I'm saying we aren't going to fix this planet. Now that's obviously my opinion but I think there's compelling evidence that things are only going to go downhill and its simply far to difficult to have the same energy throughput we have now using alternative sources (in terms of cost, materials, time, etc). I'm not saying we're all gonna bail to mars either but terraforming the planet isn't a bad idea because then the population can diffuse a little and make energy demands a bit more manageable.

Rug Burn Junky on 15/12/2006 at 22:10

Comments about jizz on Hubble contribute more coherently to this thread than your posts.

RocketMan on 15/12/2006 at 22:17

Oh yeah?

Then why don't you amuse yourself with more discussion on who's responsible for the white jizz stain on hubble. At least I'm saying something intelligeable....but then you seem to disagree. So go ahead and disagree. Just don't take stabs at the way I argue a point cuz that's tacky. Its not like there's a right or a wrong answer here. We're all just bringing different things to the table. So get off my case and stop wasting time. Go nag on someone who's actually being a dumbass.

mopgoblin on 15/12/2006 at 23:00

Quote Posted by Agent Monkeysee

I dunno, isn't there some evidence that Venus once had somewhat Earth-like temperatures? Not sure if humans could fuck things up on that scale, but if so then Mars probably would be a nicer place to live. Might also be good to have some people somewhere well away from the Earth so civilisation won't be completely destroyed if a great big space rock smacks into the planet, or if there's a nuclear war, or if some other nasty surprise event happens.

Rug Burn Junky on 15/12/2006 at 23:59

Quote Posted by RocketMan

Its not like there's a right or a wrong answer here.

Actually there is.

Your suppositions and conclusions are unreasonable and not supported by any logic. Thus they fail.

Monkeysee has told you why they are unreasonable. Just because it's so simple of a case to make that it can be done in two sentences doesn't mean it's any less true.

So if you're going to stubbornly bring up this idea, without truly acknowledging the valid criticisms thereof, you're offering less to us than crude jokes about jism.

That's not tacky, that's just da troof.

And can we get back to Venus please? Because that Bananarama chick in the red leather jumpsuit is hot enough to melt lead herself.

Renzatic on 16/12/2006 at 00:52

Quote Posted by mopgoblin

Earth so civilisation won't be completely destroyed if a great big space rock smacks into the planet.

(http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/asteroid_risk_041224.html) Friday, April 13th, 2029. The day we have a 1 in 60 chance of probably not getting fucked.

So after getting a lookit at that, I says to Mabel "Mabel, lets move to Mars". And Mabel says "Why not Venus?" "Face won't melt on Mars", I says. That's whens we decided on Mars.

Gorgonseye on 16/12/2006 at 00:58

You either burn alive (Venus) or turn into an icecube (Mars)...decisions decisions huh?