Mapping out The City.

str8g8 on 21/12/2004 at 12:33

The zombies didn't occupy all of Old Quarter, just a section of it that was walled up. AKAIK the walled section is still there in DS so I placed it on my map, though I wasn't too sure fo the position, as there is not much to go on. Is there any other information about the location of the walled section?

cheers
straitgait

he flys on 21/12/2004 at 12:38

I thought it might have been the same section, because I could have sworn that somewhere I read the Hammerites had restored that decrepit old cathedral where the eye was kept in T: DP.

Solabusca on 21/12/2004 at 18:44

Actually, that would be the 'Restored Cathedral' FM's... the Fort in the OQ is not the same thing at all. (Personally, I thought that the Fort acted as a buffer between the inhabited OQ and the 'deadzone' inside the walls...)

.j.

Mugla on 21/12/2004 at 19:22

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He lives in SQ in DS as well, and what's more I can accurately pinpoint his house on the new map, as the streets from DS SQ are incorporated in the road network.

...But in Stone market/New market/New quarter in T2... (I got confused... :confused: or baffled, rather... :p )

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Maybe - and this maintains continuity - the Cradle borders a Shalebridge Road, which runs up the side of the river from OQ or the Docks to Shalebridge?

A very good point; in olden times (and possibly in the future), villages weren't necessarily that far away from eachother, and had adjoining roads in between named after the lesser village; later the civilization of the larger engulfed the poorer ones with their slums.
Thus there's also an Auldale -street in the Walled of section: a road that runs through Aul-dale/ol' dale/...old ale... :rolleyes:

Doc_Brown on 22/12/2004 at 06:38

While I continue to cross-reference and all that jazz, let me bounce a question off you, str8g8. Why is it that you've given Dayport, yet no other quarter, a specific North and South designation? I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with it, I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind the decision.

And let me just say that, so far at least, your map grows more impressive as I examine it.

str8g8 on 22/12/2004 at 09:34

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Thus there's also an Auldale -street in the Walled of section: a road that runs through Aul-dale/ol' dale/...old ale...

Exactly, and hopefully, I can extrapolate this road as continuing outside the walled section and crossing the river (at Auldale Bridge, natch).

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...But in Stone market/New market/New quarter in T2... (I got confused... or baffled, rather... )

Welcome to the club. ;) My head hurts. My photoshop file of layered up maps is over 200mb.

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Why is it that you've given Dayport, yet no other quarter, a specific North and South designation?

North Dayport District and South Dayport District are marked on the Thieve's Highway map in T2 ... it's not particularly necessary, but it kind of led me to arrange Dayport more vertically, rather than spreading out along the coast. Also I like the idea of the port activity carrying on up the mouth of the river, rather than just sticking to the coast, rather like the way London was a major port, even though it is quite a way inland. Plus there is evidence in the cutscenes of fairly large boats navigating up the river.

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And let me just say that, so far at least, your map grows more impressive as I examine it.

Thanks! And I'm looking forward to your comments, though I'm going to be offline for a week or two over Christmas.

cheers
straitgait

str8g8 on 22/12/2004 at 09:50

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(Personally, I thought that the Fort acted as a buffer between the inhabited OQ and the 'deadzone' inside the walls...)

You're talking about Fort Ironwood? I really like that idea. And they seem to have a bit of an undead problem don't they ... ?

I also considered the city wall sections as marked on the keeper map ... well they seem to have towers or forts dotted along them ... so maybe Fort Ironwood is also linked into the underlying fortifications of the city.

hmmm
straitgait

Mugla on 22/12/2004 at 10:33

I thought that problem was only recent, relating to the pagan-necromancer infestation they had downstairs.

Hmmm. Yes, if you're confused too, then it must be there's cross-referencing in the canon materail?
Thus Stonemarket is only the market plaza? etc. You know the drill by now. ;)

str8g8 on 22/12/2004 at 13:01

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I thought that problem was only recent, relating to the pagan-necromancer infestation they had downstairs.

You're right of course, there is no direct link with the catastrophe, but I think it's still a good way of placing Fort Ironwood, and also the walled section (because there isn't any other evidence to situate it within the city) Perhaps the areas around the walled section are more prone to undead manifestation.

Also does anyone have a version of scumbles map where the text is legible? He seems to have done quite a lot of work towards the placement of specific sites and missions which I'd like to look at in more detail.

cheers
straitgait

Digital Nightfall on 23/12/2004 at 03:33

Our map is full of stuff from CoSaS, a bit from CL and even a few personal district names I threw in there for fun, it's not meant to try to say "this is what I think The City looks" but rather "This is how it looks in the "Circle of Stone and Shadow / Correspondence of Thieves / Calendra's Legacy" fiction.

The map will be featured in the briefing for the next mission.