Mapping out The City. - by Digital Nightfall
Digital Nightfall on 31/1/2001 at 08:56
I'd like to figure out the names of all known districts, and what buildings are in what district... could you folks (who probbly know Thief lore much better then I do) help me out? I managed to find the names of these districts....
: Stonemarket
: Undermarket
: Newmarket
: Dayport
: Eastport
: Downtowne
: Hightowne
: North Quarter
: South Quarter
: New Quarter
: Old Quarter
: Shalebridge
: The Docks
But I bet that is not all of them. Lets work together!
Thanks.
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jono456 on 31/1/2001 at 09:13
If there is a north quater and a south quater, wouldn't it make sense that there was an east and west quater?
(even if they are not mentioned in thief)
jono456 on 31/1/2001 at 09:15
Or did you mean only what we find out about in thief?
Sypha Nadon on 31/1/2001 at 13:01
Here's some ingame facts:
Dayport District: Bell Tower, Castle Van Vernon, Fieldstone Estate, Grandmauden Road, Master Willey's Manor, Shemenov Estate, Necromancer's Spiral, Sir Cullen's Keep, Dayport Trader's Bank, Lady Louisa's Suite, Castle Carlysle, The Baron's Way, Angelwatch.
The Docks: Rampone Dockside Shipping
Marketplace: The marketplace, graveyard, Garrett's Apartment, Sparrow St., Helena Way, Hill St., Whipple St., Crippled Burrick's Pub, Shalesbridge Road
Eastport: Eastport Mechanist Seminary
Downtowne: Public Works Station, Hammerite Temple
Hightowne: Opera House, Ramirez' Mansion, Farkus' Shop
The Old Quarter: The Haunted Cathedral, the old Keeper Compound, Watchman's Grave and a lot of street names I don't have in front of me.
Areas outside the City:
The Mage Towers
The Pagan Village/Maw of Chaos
Markham's Isle
Cragscleft Prison
Areas Under the City:
The Caverns
Karath-Din
Buildings whose district is unknown:
Lord Bafford's Manor
The Bonehoards
The Overlord's Fancy
Constantine's Mansion
Keeper's Compound
Soulforge Cathedral
Lady Rumford's Manor
Gorman Truart's Estate
Shoalsgate Station
First City Bank & Trust
Other Cities:
Blackbreak
Bohn
Cyric
Esse
I know I forget some...
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Keeper Hellzon on 31/1/2001 at 13:44
Nice work, Sypha!
According to the Keeper Theses, there is a part called "Wayside", if I recall correctly.
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Digital Nightfall on 31/1/2001 at 17:31
Thanks Syph! I took a few liberties and placed the unknowns where I thought they would fit well. I also added some locations from COT & CoSaS. This text-map is not for reference purposes, but for some other hopefully much more fun purpose. I now invite… no, URGE authors of fan missions to post to this thread (this thread exists in both the general discussion and the TEG forum) telling me if they want their FM areas included in this map, and what and where the places go. Authors of fan-fics are urged to as well. In fact, anyone who has input or suggestions are welcome.
The City
: Towne Square
- Soulforge Cathedral
: Stonemarket
- The Grieving Burrick Inn
: Old Quarter
- Haunted Hammerite Cathedral
- The Abandoned Keeper’s Grotto
: Dayport
- Castle Van Vernon
- Fieldstone Estate
- Master Willey's Manor
- Shemenov Estate
- Necromancer's Spiral
- Sir Cullen's Keep
- Dayport Trader's Bank
- Lady Louisa's Suite
- Castle Carlysle
- Angelwatch Tower
: Docks
- Rampone Dockside Shipping
: Marketplace
- The Market
- Graveyard
- Crippled Burrick's Pub
: Eastport
- Eastport Mechanist Seminary
: Three Gate’s Bridge
- The Ivory Rose
: Newmarket
: Downtowne
- Public Works Station
- Downetowne Hammerite Temple
: Hightowne
- Opera House
- Institute for the mentally decrepit (formally Ramirez’s mansion)
- The Circle of Stone and Shadow
: Shalebridge
: Sholesgate
- Sholesgate Police Station
: New Quarter
- Overlord’s Fancy
- Downwinder Thieves’ Guild
- Lord Randall’s Mansion
- Donal’s House
: North Quarter
- First City Bank & Trust
: South Quarter
- Lord Bafford’s Manor
: Undermarket
- Lord Raputo’s Mansion
: Wayside
Outside The City
: Outside The City Limits
- Constantine's Demolished Mansion
- Lady Rumford's Manor
- Gorman Truart's Estate
: The North Mountains
- Master Nightfall’s Estate
- Hand Brotherhood’s Keep
: The West Mountains
- Cragscleft Prision
: Under The City
- The Bonehoard
- The Lost City, Karath-Din
- The Burrick Caves
: Deep within the forest
- The Pagan Village
: Offshore
- Markham’s Isle
Grundbegriff on 31/1/2001 at 19:05
Excellent thread, people. This one goes on the Best Of list. Good summary work, Sypha.
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The City
: Dayport
- Necromancer's Spiral
That's
spire...
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: Docks
- Rampone Dockside Shipping
Accoring to Gilver's shipping label, Rampone Dockside Shipping is at:
1369 Winston Avenue Bay#7933
Wayside Dock DistrictSo then, "The Docks" and "Wayside" are the same thing.
At Rampone's Dockside Shipping, we learn of such fine establishments as:
* Cid Capezza Inventions
* Venik Kilgor Weapon Smithing
* Lady Angelica's Experimental Apothecary
* Sven Mynell Steaks
* Lord Porter's Fine Art For Sale
* D. M. Gilver Exporting Company
* T. M. Blackheart Recording Studio
* E. B. Bramrich's Accounting Service
* Noah Jerm's Lensgrinding
Gilver makes clear that these can count as business addresses and not merely as storage units; still, it's possible that some of these businesses are established elsewhere in the City as well.
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: Marketplace
- The Market
- Graveyard
- Crippled Burrick's Pub
Those, and also the streets:
* Hill Street
* Sparrow Street
* Helena Way
* Whipple Street
* Old Gate
At Rampone's we learn that Taft Avenue is a street in Shalebridge.
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: Sholesgate
- Sholesgate Police StationSho
alsgate, no?
This is the Docks, as mentioned above.
These, and also the streets:
* De Perrin Street
* Rubin Street
* Market Street
* Cathedral Street
* Auldale Street
Plus the buildings of the cloister at the old Cathedral:
* St Yora's
* St Jenel's
* St Tennor's
* St Vale's
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Outside The City
: Outside The City LimitsAt Rampone's we also learn that Richmond Boulevard is a street in some unspecified overseas locale, and Also overseas or elsewhere are Lesser Hrabotha and Throvia (or in any case some place--Throve? Throw?--that would have "Throvian" as its adjectival form). Likewise, Bafford's antique dealer receives antiques from Bohn, which may be a place if it's not a person.
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: Under The City
- The BonehoardYes, but the entrance should be placed somewhere in one of the known, formerly affluent districts.
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- The Lost City, Karath-DinAnd there, the following sites:
* The Library
* The Colosseum (Arena)
* The Great Temple-Palace
* The Temple of N'Lahotep
* The Royal Tombs
* The Tower of Fire
Cheers,
G.
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Grundbegriff on 31/1/2001 at 19:22
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Originally posted by jono456:
If there is a north quater and a south quater, wouldn't it make sense that there was an east and west quater?Not necessarily. For example. Connecticut has an East Haven, a West Haven, and a North Haven, but no South Haven.
Since the City is on a shoreline and since it has a North quarter and a South quarter, it actually makes sense that it would be missing at least one of the other two
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/ubb/wink.gifSince there's an Eastport, and a New Quarter, I would guess that the City lies on a shore with water to the east and that the "New Quarter" is the westward expansion (which is why there's no "West Quarter"--the names "North" and "South Quarter" probably arose earlier in the City's development, and the newness of the new district to the west was probably more important than the westwardness of that new district).
Assuming a sun in the southern sky and rising in the east, it would make sense for Dayport to be further to the south along the short than Eastport is. Wayside, then, would be an industrial zone upshore, far from the fashionable Dayport.
So then:
<pre>
North
Quarter
--Old-------------------- |~~~~~~~~
New | Quarter | Wayside|~~~~~~~~~
Quarter | Downtowne | Eastport|~~~ sea ~~
| | Dayport|~~~~~~~~~
--------------- South
Quarter
</pre>
Cheers,
G.
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Kyloe on 31/1/2001 at 19:24
Dreckboun?
Grundbegriff on 31/1/2001 at 19:40
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Originally posted by Kyloe:
Dreckboun?Yes, the Dreckboun, Sunnyfair, and Fendon gambling pits.
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G.
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