Tony_Tarantula on 25/5/2017 at 02:52
True. And did you also know that the majority of violent crime in America is concentrated in a half doze9n or so cities? Ones that just *coincidentally* are bastions of progressive politics.
And well....maybe. I question whether you even live in Europe given your ludicrous claim that none of these attacks were migrants. I lived in Germany for work last summer and there was a new migrant attack literally every week ranging from subway stabbings to some guy who shot up a shopping mall. According to German language TV news the suspect was invariably a "refugee". And as I've mentioned before one of my Arabic friends was accosted by migrants in Italy and let go once they realized he could speak Arabic after which they said they didn't realize he was a Muslim and became friendly.
Plus, theres this that happened right before the Manchester attack....sure its a coincidence that the police busted up a rape gang where the ringleaders were Pakistani migrants.
That once incident alone is enough to disprove your claim.
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4521658/amp/Rochdale-sex-gang-leader-fighting-deportation-Pakistan.html)
Nicker on 25/5/2017 at 02:53
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
Does the shoe fit a little too well?
No. There seems to be more room up your capacious ass for it.
Fuck you for making petty political hay of this dreadful tragedy, you creepy, low-life hack.
Does that make it easier for you to understand?
Tony_Tarantula on 25/5/2017 at 02:59
Or you know...this one where the attacker was a Tunisian migrant.
Even then it is somewhat in the area of pedantics. Most of these perps have a record of travel to places like Syria and known affiliations.
Which is....kind of how it works. Even in Afghanistan there were relatively few Pakistani fighters. The usual way this works is that they travel down to train and prepare in the winter and then Summer is the "fighting season" (decently explained: (
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/18/134652285/with-spring-comes-fighting-season-in-afghanistan)).
There's a reason why most of these attacks occur in late apring and early summer.
Tony_Tarantula on 25/5/2017 at 03:02
Quote Posted by Nicker
No. There seems to be more room up your capacious ass for it.
Fuck you for making petty political hay of this dreadful tragedy, you creepy, low-life hack.
Does that make it easier for you to understand?
No.
Fuck you for espousing an ideology that GETS PEOPLE KILLED, just because doing so strokes your smug ego.
Dont you DARE to fucking moralize at me.
You aren't "compassionate". You arent somehow morally superior. You're just arrogant and self righteous.
Starker on 25/5/2017 at 03:08
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
And well....maybe. I question whether you even live in Europe given your ludicrous claim that none of these attacks were migrants.
If this is aimed at me, where have I ever said that?
I'm saying that anecdotes are no substitute for actual crime statistics.
Starker on 25/5/2017 at 03:26
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
No.
Fuck you for espousing an ideology that GETS PEOPLE KILLED, just because doing so strokes your smug ego.
Dont you DARE to fucking moralize at me.
You aren't "compassionate". You arent somehow morally superior. You're just arrogant and self righteous.
Well, you really are exploiting a tragedy just to be all smug and "told you so" and deride and look down on people offering sympathy and condolences.
Nicker on 25/5/2017 at 04:28
Quote Posted by Starker
Well, you really are exploiting a tragedy just to be all smug and "told you so" and deride and look down on people offering sympathy and condolences.
Exactly.
Tony_Tarantula on 25/5/2017 at 12:48
No. You have absolutely ZERO right to moralize to me on this topic. There are multiple times where I have put my life directly on the line to protect Middle Eastern Muslims, most notably when I led a team out of an IED mined area while wounded.....from the front, without a working mine detector when I could easily have put someone else in the front. You haven't done that for ANYONE in your fucking life, let alone a Muslim so you have zero fucking grounds to morally condescend to me. Once you actually put your money where your mouth is and put that much on the line (or as much as your circumstances allow you to, in the sake of fairness) then I'll be somewhat less dismissive.
I also later wrote a recommendation letter so that the guy in question could immigrate to the United States and get a citizenship.
Here's a hypothetical question: what do you think is going to happen to him if one of those unvetted refugees moves to his town and turns out to be associated with the Afghan Taliban? It's not going to be pretty.
Quote:
Well, you really are exploiting a tragedy just to be all smug and "told you so" and deride and look down on people offering sympathy and condolences.
Huge difference between being "smug" about something and being so jaded that you just throw up your arms and say "fuck it!" because no matter how many times this happens the British police seem more interested in arresting hate tweeters than terrorists while half the rest of the press insists that the "real victims" are somehow not the people who got blown up at the concert.
Chimpy Chompy on 25/5/2017 at 15:09
Tony that's great what you did, really. And soldering out there is the sort of life most of us couldn't handle, for sure.
But it doesn't mean you get a free pass if you start sounding inhumane over treatment of immigrants. Or fire off unhelpful and hyperbolic ranting like the last paragraph of your post there.
Thor on 25/5/2017 at 15:33
Quote Posted by Starker
Well, you really are exploiting a tragedy just to be all smug and "told you so" and deride and look down on people offering sympathy and condolences.
I'm sure those things will come in handy to the ones that paid the price.
