Tocky on 3/12/2022 at 02:37
Quote Posted by Azaran
I imagine attempted art fraud will grow rampant, with people showing off 'long lost' works by famous artists
Even printed on canvas there would still be the problem of brush strokes. As a fake in someone's house? Sure. You could use some clearcoat to simulate brush strokes. But under the eye of anyone with training? Nah. I could see a well trained artist duplicating the duplicate and passing it off but that isn't anything different than what they do now. And if the works of an artist aren't already in the database then what it comes out with is nothing like the artist. I put in Jere Allen and it came back with crap. Granted he isn't in the top 100 in terms of famous but here and in Germany he has done well.
demagogue on 3/12/2022 at 08:19
A person paints what the AI produced. I don't think the issue will be so much about fraud, but I do think people would be interested in buying painted AI versions of their favorite artists, even knowing it's AI because it looks good, and that will do something to the market. Maybe not the billionaires and banks interested in flipping them, but just normal people interested in art.
Azaran on 5/12/2022 at 22:27
Quote Posted by demagogue
While we're predicting the apocalypse of AI art, check out what's been happening with AI chat lately.
This is from ChatGPT.
Insane. I've asked it to provide new hymns to historical deities and it sure delivers. Even adds coherent rhymes. This is a 'new' hymn to the moon goddess Selene:
"Hail to thee, Selene, shining goddess of the night
Your beauty illuminates the dark with your gentle light
You ride across the sky on your silver chariot
Guiding the stars and the moon, a celestial pilot
Your radiance is a beacon, guiding us through the night
Your face is a reflection of the sun's warming light
You are the bringer of dreams, the mistress of sleep
Your touch is gentle, your presence a soothing keep
We offer you our praise, O Selene, divine queen
May your light continue to shine, ever serene
Bless us with your beauty, and grant us your grace
As we journey through the night, guided by your face.
May this hymn to Selene bring you peace and calm
And may your light always shine, illuminating the night's dark realm."
PS: I've googled extracts from these and come up empty, which means the AI is actually thinking and creating them
A hymn to Cthulhu:
Great Old One, Ancient One
Cthulhu, hear our plea
In the sunken city R'lyeh
You sleep beneath the sea
Your power is beyond measure
Your might we cannot see
But we know you are waiting
For the day you'll break free
From your slumber you will rise
And bring forth chaos and fear
Your reign will be unending
As you reign supreme, oh Dear
Great Cthulhu, Great Old One
We worship at your feet
In your name we make our offerings
And pray for your return, oh sweet
May your wrath be upon us
As we await your arrival
Great Cthulhu, we praise you
And pledge our loyalty, oh vile.
Azaran on 6/12/2022 at 02:53
Jerry Seinfeld dabbles in witchcraft. Courtesy of Chat GPT
Quote:
Scene: Jerry's apartment. Jerry is sitting at the kitchen table with a book of spells in front of him.
Jerry: (to the audience) So I decided to try my hand at witchcraft. I mean, why not? It's not like I have anything better to do.
Kramer bursts into the apartment.
Kramer: Jerry, Jerry! I just saw the weirdest thing!
Jerry: What?
Kramer: I was walking down the street and I saw this woman with a broomstick! She was flying!
Jerry: (chuckles) Yeah, I know. That was me.
Kramer: (stunned) You?!
Jerry: Yeah, I've been dabbling in witchcraft.
Kramer: (excitedly) Oh man, this is great! I've always wanted to fly on a broomstick! Can you teach me?
Jerry: (skeptical) I don't know, Kramer. This stuff is serious business. It's not a joke.
Kramer: (pleading) Come on, Jerry. Just one little spell. I promise I'll be careful.
Jerry: (reluctantly) Okay, fine. But if anything goes wrong, it's on you.
Kramer: (eagerly) Great! What do I do?
Jerry: (reading from the book of spells) First, you need to gather some supplies. You'll need a broomstick, of course, and some herbs and crystals.
Kramer: (excitedly) I'll be right back!
Kramer rushes out of the apartment. A few minutes later, he returns with a broom and a bag of supplies.
Kramer: (holds up the broom) I got the broom! And I found these herbs and crystals at the health food store.
Jerry: (looks at the herbs and crystals skeptically) Uh, Kramer. Those aren't the right herbs and crystals.
Kramer: (confused) They're not?
Jerry: (explaining) No, those are just for cooking and decoration. You need specific herbs and crystals for spells.
Kramer: (disappointed) Oh. Well, I guess this means I won't be flying on a broomstick after all.
Jerry: (smirks) Looks like it.
Kramer: (sighs) Oh well. Back to the old drawing board.
Jerry: (chuckles) Yeah, I think I'll stick to stand-up comedy. At least I know it's not going to backfire on me.
Kramer: (nods) Yeah, you're probably right. (pauses) Hey, have you ever thought about doing a spell to make your jokes funnier?
Jerry: (laughs) Now that's just crossing a line, Kramer.
Kramer: (shrugs) Just a thought. (exits the apartment)
Jerry: (to the audience) I guess some things are better left to the professionals. (closes the book of spells)
End scene.
zacharias on 6/12/2022 at 08:01
Quote Posted by Azaran
PS: I've googled extracts from these and come up empty, which means the AI is actually thinking and creating them
Oh dear. I think you've misinterpreted the A part of AI.
No offence to anyone, but nothing in this thread so far has really been good art. I mean that Seinfeld bit wasn't remotely funny. Yeah, so a computer can parse loads of data and come up with an approximation of ‘something artistic'. Unfortunately there is no intent, no real intelligence. The mind part is missing - the most important part of art.
Edit - lest I come across as a total naysayer: it's kinda interesting, I must admit. And there's certainly potential for this to spit out interesting triggers, or somewhat randomly generated stuff which a human intelligence could build upon. However, I gotta re-iterate so far most of the images herein are (to my eye) pretty ‘effin cheesy.
zacharias on 6/12/2022 at 09:30
Coherent maybe, but not funny. I’d prefer something incoherent which had a nugget of real comedy.
Anyway, those images are much better. Almost alarmingly sophisticated. I guess I am just a naysayer though because to me it’s just not art - however sophisticated or pretty the images get - if the only human input was a few text strings. I suppose that’s pretty irrelevant to this thread. On a taste level the images still are a bit questionable. I suppose that’s somewhat irrelevant too.
I think it just annoys me because the execution is being left totally to an AI. In reality art can be exceptional because of either concept or execution, or the merging of both. So to me AI art is outsourcing one half of your creativity. I suppose I am opposed to it in principle :D Pointless really because the general public won’t care about any of these arguments, I must admit.
heywood on 6/12/2022 at 12:28
Keep in mind that 99% of human made art is formulaic or downright copycat, comedy included.
