Muzman on 6/1/2007 at 01:14
Looks pretty cool I reckon, even though it's macho wank (Spartans! Tonite we DIE IN OUR UNDERWEAR!). Miller only really knows how to do macho wank anyway You've got to expect it.
I've only glanced at the book, so I don't know what's in there, but from the sounds of the previews history buffs will not be impressed. There's no Athenians, no Thespians (insert acting joke here), no Thebians, just the 300 at Thermopylae.
Though to be fair, it's not as phony as Braveheart about its relationship to real history now is it (check out the bling on Xerxes! the Persians are practically the army of Mordor as well).
And yes, for some sense of balance I think someone should make a movie about a Helot revolt. Age of freedom indeed.
Agent Monkeysee on 6/1/2007 at 02:33
Quote Posted by Shayde
After what they did with The Iliad I have no hope for this one.
To be fair it wasn't The Iliad. It was Troy.
I don't know anything about Frank Miller's works and hadn't even heard of him until Sin City came out but I'd prefer a historical treatment of Thermopylae to this hyper-stylized nonsense.
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
You'd have to pay me...I dunno, I guess about $75 to watch that? It looks unbearable.
You missed the point little buddy. It's based on a Frank Miller comic book so any sanitizing of the Spartans are his fault, not the filmmakers. The problem I have isn't so much that they're not covering the socio-political structure of Spartan society (why would this even come up in a movie about Thermopylae), it's why Xerxes looks like something out of Warhammer 40K. But then I'm not a particular fan of Frank Miller's work and I think the story of Thermopylae is plenty cool without making it look all apocalyptic.
The Alchemist on 6/1/2007 at 03:10
I want a boring historically correct documentary about homosexy spartans :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Nigga please, I want to watch big angry men with swords slash at eachother in slow mo and huge man-beast things with sharp objects for arms take down 10 men with one blow. I want to watch a Spartan jump into a crowd of 30 of those ninja looking people and kick the fucking shit out of them with his massive locks of hair alone. This is a goddamn action movie. If you dont like action movies then ok, you're boring, that's fine. But shit all these warped expectations are leaving me kinda :eek:.
Edit oh shi Muzman beat me to it.
BEAR on 6/1/2007 at 03:11
Quote Posted by Bionicman
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http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/) 300
I can't believe there's not a thread about this already! They've been advertising the crap out of this movie on myspace
Quoted again for irony, I know kolya already beat me to it.
Im somewhat split about the movie. I liked Sin City, and I like Spartans, but whats with the fucking bear-chested men everywhere. I mean, I dont need to see greasy rippling pecks to know that they are beefy dudes, what moron would go into battle with no fucking shirt. Im just not sure what its supposed to add, but not a big deal.
Other than that, Im hoping for a gritty, overly violent bloodbath with some interesting visuals and it seems likely to deliver. Im not going for a true-to life historical representation, although hopefully they wont butcher it too bad.
Truth be told the real story will be more interesting but nobody seems able to tell such things in movies, but I guess I'll always have the history channel.
PeeperStorm on 6/1/2007 at 03:25
From the trailer it looks like the director isn't very good. Add to that boatloads of gratuitous CGI, green screening and slo-mo, and you end up with nothing that I'm willing to pay to see.
frozenman on 6/1/2007 at 03:52
I wonder if that was Sparta providing the soundtrack...
I'll still probably see it because as far as I know the Battle of Thermopylae hasn't got a large dramatic treatment- at most it's been two dozen actors shot at close range trying to substitute for thousands of men in a crappy (though historically accurate) History Channel special. It should be fun to watch even if it is superflous cgi-mappings (I'm not particularly dazzled by this & Sin City's style but eh).
oudeis on 6/1/2007 at 04:07
The cgi ain't superfluous, it's part of the very conception of the film. The avowed goal was to make a movie that captured the look of the Miller graphic novel as exactly as possible, and they decided that the 'Sin City' approach was the way to go. You can find images of some the movie shots as they progress through the sfx process, starting with actors in front of a green screen and ending up at a still from the trailer several steps later. The effects are integral to the look of the film, not some half-assed Jar-Jar/Water planet nonsense.
Besides, there
(http://ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105894) was a thread about this already
Bionicman on 6/1/2007 at 04:46
Quote Posted by BEAR
Quoted again for irony, I know kolya already beat me to it.
Oh, sorry, I forgot that if something is popular, or in the mass media, it's not worth your time. My bad, please, forget about this nonsense.
jackasses.
Aerothorn on 6/1/2007 at 04:55
Dude, for all the popular things that get flack for being popular, MySpace isn't one of them. To quote myself from just a few hours ago:
"Facebook does have a more specific focus than MySpace, but I think there's just no excuse for the performance of MySpace - every aspect of it either suffers from performance issues, has bugs, or simply doesn't work. The user-interface is simply nonexistent (it's just random buttons thrown together, with no connecting interface between different segments), and if you're concerned about security, MySpace is NOT the place to be - spambots and spyware run rampant."
But that's without touching the actual content, the horrid ads, or the fact that it's owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Quote Posted by The Alchemist
If you dont like action movies then ok, you're boring
Or maybe I just don't have a taste for gratuitous violence? Something must be wrong with me!
I think I may have to re-examine my assumption that you were named after the character from
The Diamond Age (I have no idea why I thought that).
That said, Monkeysee's point is well-taken - sorta. I guess you can't fault something for its source material - but if the source material is really that bad, why make it into a movie? Doesn't make it not suck.
Convict on 6/1/2007 at 05:10
When I saw the bit about Spartans fighting for freedom I too was a bit :rolleyes: Have the neocons infested Hollywood now? :p
Other than that the movie looked great! :D
