dracflamloc on 14/3/2007 at 12:07
I was pretty disappointed by this film. Sin city was a rather boring movie from most people point of view but what made it good was character development and originality.
300 made Sparta out to be way different than it really was and there was no connection between me and the characters of the movie like in Sin City. It was okay for a matinée I guess if you're bored on Sunday.
Also I thought it was pretty lame how the comic book gore never stuck to the ground... There'd be bodies and bodies and limbs cut off yet the ground was pristine yellow/orange sand with no stains whatsoever during and after the battle. The blood always just fell off-screen and never hit the ground.
I guess I just expected more.
Thirith on 14/3/2007 at 12:41
I got bored with the 300 look halfway through the trailer. There's simply nothing there that interests me... and from what I've heard and read, there's not much to the movie beyond its style, unless you're really into well oiled torsoes, more or less wall-to-wall fighting and hard-man posturing and soundbites. Can't say that I am.
P.S.: Perhaps this is where I can ask for an explanation: Why exactly is The Dark Knight Returns often hailed as one of the shining lights of the comic book renaissance, together with Watchmen? I honestly don't get what's so special about it, in addition to which I think it's aged pretty badly. (I only read it roughly five years ago.)
Stitch on 14/3/2007 at 16:17
Quote Posted by Thirith
Why exactly is The Dark Knight Returns often hailed as one of the shining lights of the comic book renaissance, together with Watchmen?
Actually, I'll readily agree with you on The Dark Knight Returns. I read both that and Watchmen within a short period of time, and I found former to be clumsy and unengaging. The fact that Miller is kind of a shitty draftsman when he's not doing the high-contrast Sin City style doesn't help, either.
Watchmen, however, blew me utterly away.
oudeis on 14/3/2007 at 22:47
Apparently 300 made over 70 million in its first weekend. I wonder how they'll explain the sequel?
Bionicman on 15/3/2007 at 02:43
well, I guess they could make "10,000" if they were really hankering to cash in.
Aerothorn on 15/3/2007 at 02:58
VIGNETTE* TIME
So I was hanging out in my school's media lab today, and the newspaper's female graphics editor was going on about how excited they were for Sin City 2. I mentioned the TTLG discussion on Sin City's apparent misogyny and asked her if that bothered her. She said no. I joked that she was a misogynist. Another girl at the table said that woman can't be misogynists. whaaaaaa
*Yes, I realize my use of the word is questionable
Lady Taffer on 15/3/2007 at 03:59
Ahh, that silly person. Women can very much be mysoginists, sadly. On the flip side, feminists are always getting trashed for being "man-haters" but I know a lot of feminists and curiously the only instances of man hating that I've ever seen have come from other men.
Hidden_7 on 15/3/2007 at 06:15
Man, are we all so high brow now?
Now, I wouldn't reccomend any of Miller's work to any of my female friends, which actually does give me hella pause. Am I sexist because I really enjoy movies that I wouldn't reccomend to the opposite sex? I'm I mysoginistic because I'm not bothered by mysoginy in said movies? I spose that's something I need work out for another time.
Back to my original point, in amongst your Children of Men's, and your Pan's Labarynths and Little Miss Sunshines etc. sometimes all you want is a hyper-masculine hyper-stylalized action gore-fest.
People keep saying there wasn't enough plot, wasn't enough character development. I say, not enough? Too much! Or sometimes "so what?" depending.
Maybe I just miss my youth (he says at the ripe old age of 20; yeah I know I'm still a baby), where things were simple enough as fighting for abstract ideals. Maybe that's a "masculine" idea or something? I've read in a few places that boys are more about hard and fast concrete rules, and girls are more about context and personal consequences? But you know how bullshit "studies" like those can be. Maybe this is why this really doesn't resonate with women, or men who have matured past 16, which I evidentally haven't.
Sometimes all I want to do is go to the theatre with a bunch of my friends, eat popcorn, and cheer when some dude gets his shit ruined. Whether this is a foreign martial arts movie (The Protector and Ong-Bak my favorites of late) a generic Hollywood big budget action movie, or a an overly conservative, jingoistic, rewriting of a historical event doesn't really matter.
Aw hell, I almost forgot, yeah I saw 300, saw the midnight showing. Loved it, would see it again in theatres, and would prolly buy it if the DVD was a solid enough package.
Thirith on 15/3/2007 at 08:14
Quote Posted by Stitch
Actually, I'll readily agree with you on The Dark Knight Returns. I read both that and Watchmen within a short period of time, and I found former to be clumsy and unengaging. The fact that Miller is kind of a shitty draftsman when he's not doing the high-contrast Sin City style doesn't help, either.
Watchmen, however, blew me utterly away.
Oh, you'll get no disagreement from me on that one. I am very much an Alan Moore afficionado - I've got the Absolute Watchmen at home, together with probably roughly 80% of Moore's other works. (I read Watchmen shortly after 9/11, at which point it got to me even more than it would have otherwise.)
