Sulphur on 5/5/2010 at 19:57
I always thought Kubrick should have been chosen to direct a sequel to Caligula.
Scots Taffer on 6/5/2010 at 00:59
Conflicted! On one hand we've got ZB arguing the satire case for Clockwork Orange yet he can't accept Starship Troopers on its satirical merits, and there's dethtoll condemning a lot of Kubrick's work to the overrated trash basket but gets his frilly knickers in a twist at the suggestion someone can't like the sacred Blade Runner.
I think the moral of the story is shut the fuck up both of you.
june gloom on 6/5/2010 at 01:01
That said, this is the best thread title.
ZylonBane on 6/5/2010 at 01:38
Quote Posted by dethtoll
There's satire and there's letting your pretentious bullshit get in the way.
Yah, having a character beat someone to death with a giant penis was just sooo pretentious.
Scots, the difference between Orange and Troopers is that the former actually succeeds at satire by being intelligently written and being selective about what it targets for satirical exaggeration. Troopers, on the other hands, was a broad, profoundly stupidly-written film that attempted to satirize a genre that had already descended into self-parody, thus ending up practically indistinguishable from what it was supposedly satirizing.
Or to contrast with RoboCop, Verhoeven's
successful satire:
* RoboCop: Corporate politics + sci-fi ultra-violence = satire
* Starship Troopers: Interstellar war + sci-fi ultra-violence = par for the course
Sulphur on 6/5/2010 at 05:00
Scots, you had to go and do it, didn't ya?
ANNUAL TTLG STAR SLIP POOTER FITE! SATYR OR NOT SATYR? 6TH OF THE 5TH OH TEN!!!
ZylonBane on 6/5/2010 at 05:55
Quote Posted by Sulphur
ANNUAL TTLG STAR SLIP POOTER FITE! SATYR OR NOT SATYR? 6TH OF THE 5TH OH TEN!!!
Looks like you still haven't quite hosed all the stupid off.
If you'd pay attention, you'd notice that the Starship Troopers debate gets shorter every year. Clearly it's undergoing radioactive decay.
ercles on 6/5/2010 at 09:15
Quote Posted by dethtoll
2001.
Rest are
Dr. Strangelove (a personal favourite) and
Full Metal Jacket.
So
The Shining and
Spartacus are shitty movies now? Good to know.
242 on 6/5/2010 at 10:15
Lost Kubrick Film (aka Porntacus: Dethtoll Strikes Back)
:D:D
PS: To say something meaningful: The Shining is probably my most favorite movie, not just by SC but overall. I generally prefer deeper stuff, but this thing charms me by its atmosphere.
june gloom on 6/5/2010 at 15:55
The Shining? Sorry, but the Simpsons parody of it was better.
