Lord Bafford's Manor CE 3.0 Released! [Thief 1 FM] Update August 17! - by sNeaksieGarrett
Huckeye on 9/8/2008 at 22:35
Just for the record, I wasn't implying you did anything wrong. I just came into it with the expectation that it might replace the original. In my opinion it needs a little more umph! to do that. ;)
I did try Return to Bafford's Manor as you suggested (can't believe I missed that one). And that mission was more like a sequal which changed lots of things.
My recomendation was to leave the structure and story in tact. But change enough subtle things to breathe new life into a mission some of us have completely memorized. For example, don't change the hallway in the manor, just replace the old brick texture with a new high quality one. Don't take the scepter out of the throne room, just make the guard pace into the dark corners once in a while, etc.
I'm thinking in terms of Diablo or Darkstone who boasted limitless dungeons based on their random dungeon generator. (Which seemed useless to me in games like those). But regardless of layout, items, or AI, the core gameplay was always the same.
Again, I'm just offering suggestions since I'm not talented enough to do it, and also in hopes that you will keep tweaking things and bringing more enjoyment for everyone to share.
sNeaksieGarrett on 10/8/2008 at 00:30
Ah, okay..
Sorry, it's just my first reaction to become defensive.
Hmm, I think I understand. You basically wanted more changes, and you thought that my CE was not "changed enough."
I suppose I could do another version, but I was thinking that version 3 should be the last version.... (Plus there's that chance that people are sick of more downloads i.e. "not again, i already downloaded the last version!")
Anyway, just to try to make it more clear what my intentions were:
First and foremost, I did it because I wanted a more enhanced bafford's.
Second, I felt that perhaps others who still have thief gold would want to try a "different" experience, and feel good about playing bafford's again knowing that it's been "enhanced" for better replayability.:) I think I succeeded to some degree, but your comments only show that perhaps my version is lacking and that it is not the best it can be.
Perhaps in the future I can do more, but what with RL and wanting to do other things (e.g. play other video games - I can't help it!) DromEd is not high on the "to do" list.
unreal_taffer on 10/8/2008 at 00:54
NIce, but i readed the dude who created this mission is dead? i readed it form ur txt :( . The original one, i mean, that one were my itroduction in the thief-saga
anyway, i always wanted be some original missions edited, for see any change in the map, or way not see the king on the armachair from the throne room, hehe :D
sNeaksieGarrett on 10/8/2008 at 03:00
um, thanks (I think).
But no, I think you misunderstood the text file. All I said was that LGS (Looking Glass Studios) is "gone", as in they closed their doors; as in "no more." I'm sorry if you got the impression that the fellow DORIAN was dead. (Though I honestly don't know anything about this person.)
sNeaksieGarrett on 17/8/2008 at 22:32
Good news! A TDP Version is available! See first post!:thumb:
darthsLair on 18/8/2008 at 01:42
I just downloaded the new TDP compatible version from theCircle, and it
Plays Great in Thief The Dark Project, and just as Perfect in Thief Gold.:thumb:
Shadak on 18/8/2008 at 03:52
So the question is, will the TDP version work with Thief Gold? If so it would make things much simpler and more clear to just host that latest version
sNeaksieGarrett on 18/8/2008 at 04:56
You do have a good point shadak, but i guess i was stubborn and left both available. The way i see it is this: If you never downloaded it, get the TDP (3.1) version. If you already have it for thief gold, don't bother.
So yes, to answer your question, the 3.1 version works in both Thief Gold and TDP thanks to darthsLair.;) Sorry I didn't make that more clear...... Then again, I say that on my website.:erg:
baldybaggins on 20/8/2008 at 21:03
I gotta say, I really enjoyed this. I found it at shadow lurk and it was so fun
to play.:) Thankyou! sneaksie garrett:thumb:
sNeaksieGarrett on 24/12/2018 at 21:34
Not that anyone probably cares considering this is 10 years old but I've updated the first post with working download links. Those of you who downloaded it 10 years ago have already played this, so nothing new.. but, if there's anyone out there that is new to this forum, well, this is for you then. :)
Also, I was actually working on a "redux" version that would have more changes some years ago but never finished it. If I ever get the desire to finish it I will post a release thread after it is completed.