Shadowcat on 20/2/2006 at 10:04

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For my part, I'm not especially shocked or appalled, given that equally bad things are done on a daily basis to millions of animals world-wide. We mostly ignore the other things because they're mundane. Something that seems unusual grabs our attention, but unusual != worse.

SubJeff on 20/2/2006 at 10:52

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[devils advocate]I dunno. Is this any worse than surgically ablating parts of animal's brains just to see what will happen? Or breeding animals that are genetically predisposed to diseases? Or electrical brain implants to induce fits (or whatever you want)? It looks macabre, and given the age of the experiments it's unlikely that the methodology would withstand critcism by modern standards, but let's not forget that the earliest surgeons performed amputations in public, for show, in unsterile conditions and with only alcohol as the painkiller. Scienctific progress has to start somewhere, somehow. If we are doing face and limb transplants why not head transplants? Or should that be body transplants? [/devils advocate]

btw, lolling quote from that site - "And I might as well say upfront that I'm against the removal and reanimation of heads, even for scientific or culinary purposes."
Yeah, because that would be the aim. haha.

jprobs on 20/2/2006 at 13:28

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Not claiming my superior scientific intellect here... But that supposed head that is kept alive in the video appears to be a hoax.

1) you can not see the actual severed part of the dogs neck.
2) when they beat the hammer on the table the dog lifts it's head at the noise.

Now, again, i am not of superior intellect here... but if the dogs head was severed, how could it lift it's head? do you not need muscle and tendons to do this? The neck muscles which would be required to lift ones head would be attached to the body by tendons. But if the head is severed from the body, this would be impossible.

Dog is lying under the table with it's head through a hole in said table all doped up on sedatives....

Just an observation.

jay pettitt on 20/2/2006 at 14:26

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When blokey said "I would like to say this really happen" at the beginning, I did grow kind of suspicious that it might all be twaddle.

TheGreatGodPan on 20/2/2006 at 21:47

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I have to say, this stuff really pales in comparison to the kind of shit that goes down in say, Sudan or Algeria, which isn't even in the name of science (like whale-burgers in Japan). I doubt the animals that take our place when we're gone will fare well in comparison. What if a girl (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/02/octopus_sex.php) ate your arms and let you die because you were a bad lay?