Ladies and Gentlemen, raise your pledges... - by Tomi
Chade on 6/3/2015 at 05:49
"these days"?
I'm pretty sure you could have said that 15 years ago and it would be just as relevant. :)
Melan on 6/3/2015 at 09:14
As a community, we should have pounced on the editor and gotten it released by hook or crook, but... guess those fires have mostly gone out.:p
"Used to be the power. Now they're just a bunch of guys wishing for the old days. Kinda sad." :tsktsk:
Shadowcat on 6/3/2015 at 09:31
So cruel, Melan.
I certainly feel that OtherSide missed the optimal window for doing this, but I'm pleased that they're pushing towards $850K, given that at one point I thought $750K might be in question. The two things I wanted most were the editor and the Lizardmen. Thanks to the shuffle, we have the lizards... here's hoping that the editor happens regardless!
Goldmoon Dawn on 6/3/2015 at 15:44
Like Brethren said once upon a time, we gotta think a little bigger than just Underworld Ascendant.
And I see he was right! The mere possibility that they can create just an awesome classic inspired game that succeeds, allows for them to make even more classic games. Since you guys have obviously watched all the streams and interviews, you know that they have hinted several times about making another real Thief game. They are clearly aware of what those other people have done to the Thief franchise, as they have mentioned it in every twitch stream so far. Please don't underestimate the very people who forged the industry we all enjoy today!
Lets be the vigilant fans that we once were. Otherside is trying to shake up the industry, and if anyone can do it, it is them. Obviously, I can see from reading everyone around here, most have missed the supporting appearances throughout the KS by longtime industry game makers. I think this stems from the same old problem of so many people discovering this legendary company through Thief. They think that Thief is the only thing LGS ever did, and when they slowly discover the rich legacy, they often go into various states of denial. Its the "That's *MY* Thief" syndrome.
I guess that since I grew up watching the industry unfold, it is far easier for one, such as myself, to instantly recognize and acknowledge the gifts that have just been laid at our feet.
I can see that Paul Neurath wants back what is his.
850k says he can try.
:ebil:
Twist on 6/3/2015 at 16:37
Given that they'll continue to raise funds through the end of the year, that they're less than $200K from the editor level, and that Jeff Kesselman has expressed clear enthusiasm for creating and releasing a nice toolset for us, I think you guys shouldn't assume that possibility is off the table. It's not a guarantee, but I'd guess at this point there's still a really good chance it will happen.
Just to echo what others have said... while I feel a strong nostalgic connection to both the Ultima games and the Underworld games (especially the first one), I pledged big ("Enlightened One") because I saw this as a genuine opportunity to personally help fund the rebirth of my favorite game development studio and to support their still-unique sensibility and design paradigm. I pledged partially for Underworld, but mostly I pledged for what lies beyond the Underworld if we help make Underworld a success.
Yandros on 6/3/2015 at 16:43
Quote Posted by Chade
"these days"?
I'm pretty sure you could have said that 15 years ago and it would be just as relevant. :)
To use a phrase from that time period, "True dat."
Renzatic on 6/3/2015 at 21:16
Word.
EvaUnit02 on 6/3/2015 at 23:25
Fuck the editor for now, stop being selfish. Right now the most important thing is these creative people being able to build a piece of interactive art to according to their vision. Aside from the Tracy Hickman novel (seriously, I dunno why the fuck they deemed that so important, but whatever), most of the stretch goals that were prioritised contribute to doing just that.
I'm confident that they know the importance of a modding scene to a game's longevity, but they shouldn't make it a short-term priority. The game should come first. It's probably not a matter of IF you'll get your editor but WHEN.
Vae on 6/3/2015 at 23:28
Quote Posted by Yandros
Yeah, but honestly I really hoped we would get the editor. I suppose they might release it later, but given the amount of work involved and not much ROI on it (for them) aside from the eternal goodwill of people who are into that, I find it unlikely. But then they are mostly LGS v2, so who knows.
As for being surprised it hasn't been hugely successful, I'm not. Way too few people these days understand why Looking Glass was special, and why supporting these guys is important.
Quote Posted by Melan
As a community, we should have pounced on the editor and gotten it released by hook or crook, but... guess those fires have mostly gone out.:p
Quote Posted by Shadowcat
The two things I wanted most were the editor and the Lizardmen. Thanks to the shuffle, we have the lizards... here's hoping that the editor happens regardless!
Quote Posted by Twist
Given that they'll continue to raise funds through the end of the year, that they're less than $200K from the editor level, and that Jeff Kesselman has expressed clear enthusiasm for creating and releasing a nice toolset for us, I think you guys shouldn't assume that possibility is off the table. It's not a guarantee, but I'd guess at this point there's still a really good chance it will happen.
As (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144977&page=3&p=2279549&viewfull=1#post2279549) previously mentioned,
there will be an editor...despite the fact that it's currently being marketed as an incentive to raise capital...In this particular scenario, it will be made because the ROI in doing so will be too good to pass up.
As always, time will prove me right.
Tomi on 7/3/2015 at 01:03
Perhaps there will (knowing their history, it's looking promising at least!) and I truly hope that you're right, but if "
mark my words" and "
there will be an editor" are the best "proof" that you can give, then you really shouldn't go around posting about this as a
fact.
Quote:
As always, time will prove me right.
As always, you believe that the world revolves around
you. :p Time has also proved you wrong many times before, so please point us to some reliable sources instead of stating your own opinions and speculation as facts.