Stitch on 28/11/2006 at 22:29
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
Someone's going to have to show me the "racism-fueled cultural hatred" in what Michael Richards said, though.
Yeah, "100 years ago we would have them hanging upside down with a fork up his ass" and "throw him, out, he's a nigger!" were but lighthearted japery and delightful malapropisms!
We already know ACK's a bucket of shit on legs but I simply can't accept that you're this dense.
Edit: and anyway, this isn't even about
race. To focus on race misses the larger picture of communication and context. There are an infinite amount of instances where the context of a phrase or word changes the meaning, from the telling of tasteless jokes to the uttering of a simple phrase like "I love you."
SD on 28/11/2006 at 22:35
So what, you think Richards genuinely believes that we should go back to the days of lynching black people?
And I suppose Ice-T genuinely thinks we should kill police officers too?
Agent Monkeysee on 28/11/2006 at 22:37
Hey man don't drag me into this.
I see StD's and AK's point but they're deliberately taking a specious position and playing dumb just to make everyone else do their rhetorical legwork for them and The Monkeysee doesn't abide that :cool:
Aircraftkiller on 28/11/2006 at 22:39
He does have a good point... How are you going to prove that his words were backed by this so called cultural hatred?
SD on 28/11/2006 at 22:42
Quote Posted by Aircraftkiller
How are you going to prove that his words were backed by this so called cultural hatred?
It's impossible to prove it, and Richards has denied it, so he should get the benefit of the doubt, right?
But the
assumption people are making is that it was, since Richards is white, and the people he was saying it to were black.
There's a word for assuming things of people because they belong to a certain race. Guess what it is?
Stitch on 28/11/2006 at 22:43
Quote Posted by Agent Monkeysee
I see StD's and AK's point but they're deliberately taking a specious position and playing dumb just to make everyone else do their rhetorical legwork for them and The Monkeysee doesn't abide that :cool:
Yeah, I've decided I'm pretty much done with them in this thread so I'm just chatting with you now bud
How's the woman? :cool:
Aircraftkiller on 28/11/2006 at 22:43
Not prejudice, obviously :rolleyes:
Agent Monkeysee on 28/11/2006 at 22:43
I'm not going to prove anything which doesn't change the fact that you're playing dumb. You know exactly what Stitch et. al. are talking about, you just don't like it.
We get it; you think "cultural context" is some candy-ass PC bullshit and that people should get to say whatever they want without any baggage. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. What else is there to debate?
Gorgonseye on 28/11/2006 at 22:44
Quote Posted by Strontium Dog
So what, you think Richards genuinely believes that we should go back to the days of lynching black people?
Chances are, your right STD, he probably doesn't say it with a hate of black people, he was probably just getting mad, and he exploded. BUT, frankly, he was being a fucking idiot by yelling out a RACIAL SLUR on television and referring back into the time of slavery to get it to stop, is simply, just, plain retarded. There's really no getting around that. Wether or not it's fair, the guy had it coming...
ignatios on 28/11/2006 at 22:44
ABORT MONKEYSEE ABORT