Killer Whale Kills ... Duh! - by mxleader
YuSeF on 2/3/2010 at 22:02
Quote Posted by Sulphur
2:50 A.M.
And now here I am, sitting in the near dark, waiting. I hear the silent squelch of his fins outside. He's waiting, too. For his final revenge.
I can't stop laughing
mxleader on 3/3/2010 at 01:12
Quote Posted by Gillie
Yes free Willy and all the other sea Mammals in captivity, they do not even have enough room to swim properly.
The local zoo/aquarium in my neck of the woods has some sea mammals and other wild things that travel in endless circles in the tanks and cages. The whole scene is a little disturbing if you stand and watch long enough. Just last summer my wife made me go to the zoo with a kid she was baby-sitting and I noticed the frustrations of a hedgehog that was repeatedly moving back and forth against the fence in its cage. the animal would occasionally bash his head against the fence trying to escape. All the animals seemed bored and lethargic. A friend of mine who volunteers at the zoo argues that the animals are better off in the zoo and that many people/children would not get to see the wild animals if they weren't there. I argued that they shouldn't see them in the zoo/aquarium at all, and the animals are better off in the wild even if they might get eaten, hunted, or starved. To die free in the dangers of the wild or to die slowly in the safety of a cage, that is the question.
PeeperStorm on 3/3/2010 at 03:32
Quote Posted by mxleader
FREE WILLY! FREE WILLY! FREE WILLY!
You go shouting that around here and you'd better be ready to supply some.
Gillie on 3/3/2010 at 15:57
The point is of course these beautiful mammals and other animals should not be in captivity
They are so stressed and lonely whales need the deep oceans to be happy.
It is barbaric that are swimming in a pool with hardly any room to swim. Of course they can not be realised into the sea or with difficulty if they have been bred in captivity, which should not have happened in the first place anyway.
Many zoos are wrong as well which is another argument, the only nearest thing is maybe wildlife parks, with thousands of acres which will not happen, except in perhaps places like Africa where they are more or less free. These poor animals pacing upo and down in a cage. :(
Hunting whales too has caused a lot of damage to the earth as well, another story there.
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http://www.whaleprotection.org/captivity.htm)
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Numerous animal protection agencies (including The Vancouver Humane Society, The Humane Society of the United States, The Vancouver SPCA) all agree that whales physically suffer the limited movement allowed in small artificial pools, suffer social deprivation when removed from their families in the wild, and suffer much shorter life spans than their counterparts in the wild.
Studies on physiology, senses, and energetic can be valid in limited ways to determine such physical responses as eye sensitivity to light, or the number of calories it takes to swim a certain distance. But, for the most part, behavioral studies on captives whales can't be applied to wild whales because captivity forces these animals to behave unnaturally.
Close-up contact with captive whales is initially a thrilling experience, but soon most people begin to sense that these magnificent mammals cannot possibly be living lives remotely resembling those they might have had in the world. Their movements are appallingly restricted to endless circling in the pool. They are fed dead fish to eat, are taught to perform on cue, and are forced to endure unrelenting public scrutiny for most of their captive lives. The sole educational purpose of these whale displays is, ironically, to directly confront human beings with the selfishness and cruelty they have imposed upon a highly intelligent fellow species. The "entertainment" provided by the whales is not "educational:, as the Aquarium maintains.
IN THE WILD . . . Whales and dolphins are intelligent, highly social mammals who live in small family groups called "pods". Orca offspring stay with their mothers for life.
BrokenArts on 3/3/2010 at 16:25
Lets all go watch free Willie, then the Voyage Home, *close enough, still a whale*.
Fragony on 4/3/2010 at 09:26
Quote Posted by Gillie
The point is of course these beautiful mammals and other animals should not be in captivity
Yeah. Killer whales are smart and emotional creatures. I will never forget the footage of a Killer mom trying to get her cup over his fear of a beach snatching, it was truly amazing. First she showed how it was done, then she gently pushed him towards the beach. When that didn't help a few relatives came to her aid, and it worked he gave it a try, the little guy practiced a little, and then they swam of.
Gillie on 4/3/2010 at 21:39
Quote Posted by Fragony
Yeah. Killer whales are smart and emotional creatures. I will never forget the footage of a Killer mom trying to get her cup over his fear of a beach snatching, it was truly amazing. First she showed how it was done, then she gently pushed him towards the beach. When that didn't help a few relatives came to her aid, and it worked he gave it a try, the little guy practiced a little, and then they swam of.
That is a wonderful story. They certainly are very intelligent and do have a lot of emotions. I find it just heartbreaking.
I could not care less if people find it amusing. Their song to each other in the wild are amazing to listen too. More than anything in the world, I would love to see them in the wild.
I know they can not just close these places because of feeding and such,young ones have been released into the sea again. While I have some sympathy for the trainer, they are wild and he probably cold take it no more. In the link it states a whale looses about 40 years of it's life living in captivity.
Al_B on 5/3/2010 at 00:46
Quote Posted by Gillie
That is a wonderful story.
Please say that you're not serious. (It's "calf" by the way, Fragony, not "cup" unless the mother really was concered about the performance of her darjeeling).
I do agree that seeing animals like these in the wild is for the best. I don't know where you're located but my wife recently did a short break on a ferry and saw quite a few during the trip. I think (
http://www.biscay-dolphin.org.uk/biscay/index.html) this is the site covering the general route.
PeeperStorm on 5/3/2010 at 02:04
Quote Posted by Al_B
It's "calf" by the way, Fragony, not "cup" unless the mother really was concered about the performance of her darjeeling.
Two orcas, one cup.
Gillie on 5/3/2010 at 02:46
Quote Posted by Al_B
Please say that you're not serious. (It's "calf" by the way, Fragony, not "cup" unless the mother really was concered about the performance of her darjeeling).
I do agree that seeing animals like these in the wild is for the best. I don't know where you're located but my wife recently did a short break on a ferry and saw quite a few during the trip. I think (
http://www.biscay-dolphin.org.uk/biscay/index.html) this is the site covering the general route.
Sort of, actually I like those kind of stories, Anyway it just shows how wonderful they are to their young. I forgot about the "Calf" bit.
I could not get that site. My computer said no. It put the Internet off? I managed to see Is it the Bay of Biscay? I am in Britain no whales around here. Unless I go to the far North of Scotland I think.
I would love to see the different whale species I love Humpbacks. For that I have heard Chile is really good.
My hubby saw some while in the Falkland Islands. New Zealand is good and off San Francisco. Far away anyway. Canada etc.
love this and the others tooMigaloo the White Whale Speaks
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grRuw1cE9LU)
Quote Posted by PeeperStorm
Two orcas, one cup.
:laff:
