icemann on 23/3/2013 at 04:00
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Sorry Jason but OoT basically
is A Link to the Past, just with the suck removed.
WHAT. There was no suck in any shape or form in LTTP. It's easily the best game in the series. Ocarina just looked prettier.
Quote Posted by dethtoll
As for the suck... mostly to do with LttP's clunky controls and tinny music. LttP mostly just irritated me more than anything else.
Clunky controls? What planet are you on. The controls were excellent and very responsive by snes standards. Man if you think LTTP has bad controls then you must hate much of the rest of the games on the system which have similar control schemes. Sure the snes doesn't have an analog stick but who cares.
Tiny music? I can't believe what I'm hearing. LTTP had some great tunes. Not as good as Super Castlevania IV or Super Metroid, but it's right up there with the best. Many excellent recognizable tunes in the game. Overworld theme in particular.
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
what're your takes on SotN's mirror castle?
An interesting twist in the game, especially considering that many people (myself included) didn't know about it at first until we learned how you were supposed to do the boss battle prior to it.
Quote Posted by Renzatic
I never noticed the tinny-ness, but I always thought the earlier SNES soundtracks sounded more, for lack of a better word, MIDIish than they did in the later on. Castlevania IV and Final Fantasy II were about the only games from that era that managed to avoid sounding overly fake to me.
It really depends on the games you play on the system. Castlevania IV, Chronotrigger, Shadowrun, Secret of Mana, Super Metroid all had awesome soundtracks. Axelay and Castlevania were the first 2 standouts for me.
But that's to be expected for games on any system as it takes developers time to get used to development of games on the system both for learning a console engines limitations + how to get music to its best potential. Look at the Commodore 64 and how music on those games got FAR superior later on.
Classic (The Last Ninja):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaxJK2c9Onk)
EvaUnit02 on 23/3/2013 at 04:24
So Renz, if you were being gangraped in prison, what positives would you try to find in that?
Jason Moyer on 23/3/2013 at 04:31
Don't really see what's so bad about the LTTP music. Also not entirely sure Dethy knows what 'tinny' means in reference to music. If anything the LTTP music is muddy, not tinny. The original LoZ music is closer to tinny than the LTTP stuff is.
Why the hell are we talking about children's games for children's systems in a thread about Torment anyway.
ZylonBane on 23/3/2013 at 04:45
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Here's the thing about LttP's music: it's
fucking tinny. It's not the actual songs' fault. It's to do with the soundchip, and the era the game came out.
The SNES's sound chip is a DSP-based sample playback device, not a waveform synthesizer. So yes, it is the songs' fault.
Renzatic on 23/3/2013 at 04:50
Quote Posted by icemann
Axelay...
Awww, man. It's been years since I've thought of that game. As soon as I saw the name, I thought...
"Arms installation is complete. Good luck".
Tu-do-do-do-do-tu-do-do-do...
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
So Renz, if you were being gangraped in prison, what positives would you try to find in that?
AT LEAST SOMEONE'S FINALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO ME! :(
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
If anything the LTTP music is muddy, not tinny.
I still think hollow is the best way to put it. Like it doesn't have any force behind it, or it's being played in a room with really flat acoustics.
icemann on 23/3/2013 at 05:41
What was wrong with the snes versions in these? The Kakariko village tune is done quite differently on the snes one compared to the n64 one. Personally I like the snes one more, but each sounds good, its just a matter of preference rather than which is better with that one.
On the 2nd link the snes one kicks the originals butt and then some.
june gloom on 23/3/2013 at 08:36
Y'alright, if you say so. Personally, they made my ears bleed.
PigLick on 23/3/2013 at 11:05
Our class in school made ocarinas out of clay...when I was about 11 so in 1985.