The Alchemist on 12/6/2007 at 05:29
Quote Posted by kidmystik101
Not to take sides here, but he (kolya) does have a point. It's kinda like funerals in real life. You don't go to a random funeral of someone you don't know and start being sympathetic about it, do you? For example, Dia's "One year" Thread. Yes, i read it. Yes, it is saddening. I didn't post anything sympathetic. Why? Because i don't know dia and didn't know akabart.
This example doesn't work because randomly walking into a funeral does not in any way shape size or form equate to what TTLG is. Repeat after me: "community". Can you say that? Certainly, some people come here only to observe but those who bother saying something do so because they gave enough of a shit to do so. There's nothing fake about this. Neither of you have any point. It's irrelevant weather I know them personally, this is a human being and they are expressing their pain etc and it's not unreasonable to take half a second to acknowledge that and say a kind word or two. This isn't fake sympathy, this is a natural thing about humans and the way we treat each other. If I see an accident I don't start laughing and go LOL PWNT just cause I didn't personally know the people. I'll wonder shit I hope no one died. Hell I'm the type of person who would stop and help, I owe nothing to the people in the accident, I don't know them at all, hell it might have been gerbils driving the car for all I know but as a living organism I show compassion towards other living organisms.
It's not like we jump in the thread and go "GOD I MISS HIM SO MUCH ALREADY." It's more like: "sorry for your loss, my condolences." So yeah certainly the former would be pretty weird from someone who didn't know the person at all, but this doesn't happen. Not around here anyway.
henke on 12/6/2007 at 05:47
Kolya, I can see your reasoning behind this, but it's all wrong, man. People also say "I'm sorry for your loss" to relaitves of the recently deceased in real life even if they hardly know em. It's just common courtesy. Shouldn't you smile at the lady behind the counter at the supermarket or the bussdriver just because you don't know em either? Faked sincerity makes everyone's day a bit brighter, man. :)
kidmystik101 on 12/6/2007 at 05:56
Quote Posted by The Alchemist
It's not like we jump in the thread and go "GOD I MISS HIM SO MUCH ALREADY." It's more like: "sorry for your loss, my condolences." So yeah certainly the former would be pretty weird from someone who didn't know the person at all, but this doesn't happen. Not around here anyway.
Okay, fair enough, point taken. It may not happen here but i doubt this thread is directed solely(sp?) at TTLG.
jtr7 on 12/6/2007 at 07:02
I'd like to emphasize that the timing of this thread alone is worth an apology.
This topic would've been better received if it wasn't inspired by Dia's thread.
Point or no point. This was inappropriate.
Dia has accepted our humble offerings, strangers or no, and found comfort.:)
Bad timing, poor judgment, no immediate retraction. I think this thread should be deleted--at the very least.
Ko0K on 12/6/2007 at 08:05
I personally don't participate in congratulatory/consolatory threads, but I think that people who do participate in them do so because they actually mean well. As somebody else already said, there isn't much to be gained by assuming otherwise that serves constructive purposes.
Briareos H on 12/6/2007 at 08:25
what about titties
kidmystik101 on 12/6/2007 at 08:37
Quote Posted by Briareos H
what about titties
Time to De-railed thread - 10 seconds.
Rogue Keeper on 12/6/2007 at 09:48
Quote Posted by Kolya
Why do the good always die so young? :( You're an evil person and therefore you'll be dying alone, slowly and painfully at age of 999. :thumb:
In other news, a refreshing hypocritical multilateral belly laugh :
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jasee on 12/6/2007 at 09:51
Quote Posted by henke
People also say "I'm sorry for your loss" to relaitves of the recently deceased in real life even if they hardly know em. It's just common courtesy. :)
I agree - 3 days ago a lady called Sharon who lives 4 doors up from me died of leukemia. I never 'knew' her, as such, but we always said hello to each other (her husband too). In the area I live that is quite an unusual thing, you know, civility and politeness, etc.
Anyways, I was actually genuinely sad when I learned she had died - and feel very sympathetic towards her husband - but like I said, I dont
know them.
I didn't post on Dia's thread, not because I couldn't be bothered, or didn't want to sound like a fake or anything daft like that - I attempted to a few times, in fact.
I read Dia's post, looked at every picture of Bart, and got a very good sense of the love they felt for each other, and in some sense the type of man/person, that her husband was. I didn't post because I felt inadequate to. I find it difficult to express myself sometimes when people are sharing something very personal like that - even if I know that person.
I believe the people here, the members of our community that did post on Dias thread, were all genuine and not just jumping on the bandwagon for the sake of posting. I just couldn't think of the words to say, but I still feel for Dia and her family, very much so.
I think Koyla that you may be being insensitive (to say the least), and displaying a bit of ignorance towards the mainstay of people that post here, and are definately guilty of that Golden Rule - read your posts BEFORE submitting them - just in case this happens.
For Gods sake, there have been a couple of VERY personal posts of this nature posted here in as many weeks, and you just dove straight in with a thread that basically accuses people here of being false in some way.:nono:
Thats not what this community of ours is about.
And to you Dia, I am truly very sorry for your loss, even through pictures (Barts and yours in the member gallery), I could see that you were both very special to each other. . . you will be together again.
Jasee
Matthew on 12/6/2007 at 10:17
Sorry Kolya, I have to agree that you've got completely the wrong end of the stick here; there is nothing 'gut-churningly emo' about offering condolences to people who have recently lost loved ones. And frankly, all the ':p' smilies on the interwebs can't save that post.