Just read "The Man Who Was Thursday" ..

santaClaws on 2/2/2002 at 12:18

.. by G.K. Chesterton.
Helluva good book! How about Jacobs Shadow? Anyone read it already?

-claw

Eberon on 2/2/2002 at 15:43

Nope! I will some day, somewhere, though.

BlackCapedManX on 3/2/2002 at 00:39

I was under the impression that "Jacob's Shadow" was made up for the game. If someone could prove me wrong I would love to have like an author or something cause from what it read like in the game I would really like to get my hands on it.

santaClaws on 3/2/2002 at 10:36

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackCapedManX
I was under the impression that "Jacob's Shadow" was made up for the game. If someone could prove me

(http://www.nbtsc.org/danopian/books.html) Jacob's Shadow. Search the document for "Jacob's Shadow by Andrew Hammond". OK, this is no actual proof, but I still think it exists. I'll search for more, though, and post link here as they come.

-claw

Eberon on 4/2/2002 at 02:44

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackCapedManX
I was under the impression that "Jacob's Shadow" was made up for the game. If someone could prove me wrong I would love to have like an author or something cause from what it read like in the game I would really like to get my hands on it.

Oddly enough, so was I, but I was unable to confirm it through any of the interviews we've done. I'm not sure where I got this impression from, then, but I too looked it up online a few days ago to confirm its existence when I saw this thread. It seems to exist...

Regular visitors of De-M will soon have a wonderful treat, and you may just get your answer if you watch the main page during the next week ;)

Agent Monkeysee on 4/2/2002 at 03:47

Jacob's Shadow didn't come up with any hits on either Amazon.com or BarnesandNoble.com and they generally have just about everything you can find, even if it's in limited print or out of print.

Searching for author Andrew Hammond on Google didn't come up with anything either. I found one site that has a number of excerpts from a book "Jacob's Shadow by Andrew Hammond" but they're all the same quotes from Deus Ex so the chances of the site using a different source are pretty slim.

I'd say it's highly unlikely the book exists unless for some reason it's been deeply buried.

BlackCapedManX on 5/2/2002 at 03:22

Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! The really good book that doesn't exist.... And it looks so good to.... *Is till hoping* Yeah the interview thing is a good idea... (how do you guys get in conntact with tem anyway?) Meh.....

DrCrypt on 5/2/2002 at 14:05

I found Deus Ex's misusage of quotes from The Man Who Was Thursday to be a little bit maddening, to be honest. They quote it out of context as literature among the anarchists/terrorists/disestablishmentarianist types in the game, when rather the message of the book is very anti-anarchism, etc. It is also a theological novel: Sunday as representing Nature, which is the shadow of God, etc.

The book is fantastic, one of my favorite novels of all time, but I really can't get over how many people wander into the novel after playing Deus Ex and basically decide it is a pro-anarchism novel.

DrCrypt on 5/2/2002 at 14:06

Oh, and I remember very clearly Harvey Smith saying Jacob's Shadow was made up for the book. Wish he'd done the same with the Thursday quotes.

Shadowlurker on 9/2/2002 at 04:33

Has anyone read that Olaf Stapledon (right name?) novel about the tewlfth men or whatever? The bartender in the Old China Hand will explain if you don't know what I'm talking about...