Judith on 19/12/2018 at 08:21
He just didn't do anything significant past the Doom / Quake heyday, not sure if there's any other way to make it more simple. It's not a flak, because it's nothing emotional about it after so many years; it's more like a shrug.
icemann on 19/12/2018 at 09:04
So lets all just hate on him for all of eternity.
Sorry not happening. Guys a legend.
N'Al on 19/12/2018 at 09:30
No one's hating, no one's portraying him as a villain. People are being skeptical.
Starker on 19/12/2018 at 09:38
When people start saying that he's only making Doom levels because he wants attention, that doesn't seem like just being skeptical to me. That sounds more like an attack on his character.
icemann on 19/12/2018 at 09:50
Second that.
Starker on 19/12/2018 at 10:35
Don't get me wrong, I think a healthy amount of skepticism is only a good thing, but what of his recent actions or words has warranted skepticism? He teased a new project connected with Doom in his newsletter and it turns out he's delivering exactly that -- a bunch of free Doom levels for the anniversary. I don't think there has been anything to warrant thinking that he's trying to coast on the success of Doom or that he has ulterior motives in making them.
Sulphur on 19/12/2018 at 10:39
I mean, if I were a conspiracy theorist type I'd surmise something along the lines of, 'it's a good time for Doom-likes and Doom itself is undergoing a renaissance, so it's also a good time for an old creator involved in Doom to drum up some media publicity', but I'm not, and engaging with this sort of thinking tires me out by how petty it is, so... yeah, I'm just gonna appreciate the fact that he gave people something nice for free.
Now how about someone actually plays that new campaign and talks about it instead?
*renaissance = Doom 2016/Eternal. There's been mods aplenty in the interim like any homegrown modding base would be responsible for, but they're not exactly AAA returnees.
icemann on 19/12/2018 at 10:42
Not been following the forums here for the past 25 years?
Doom 1 and 2's had numerous threads on it for mods released across that time. Not too many other games still getting good mods after this long.
Judith on 19/12/2018 at 11:01
Quote Posted by Starker
When people start saying that he's only making Doom levels because he wants attention, that doesn't seem like just being skeptical to me. That sounds more like an attack on his character.
He didn't do anything significant since Doom, and he probably knows it's the last thing he was known for. So he makes a couple more levels to attract attention to his new project (he even suggests preorders). Where's an attack in stating that? That's just what he seems to be doing right now. I honestly don't care how he acted behind the scenes back then, he's pretty nice guy during GDC lectures now. But even that doesn't matter to me, because he's no longer relevant. To me, Carmack is much more important, as I see what he did with e.g. idtech4 engine (I work with it on a pretty much daily basis now).
Starker on 19/12/2018 at 11:02
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Now how about someone actually plays that new campaign and talks about it instead?
It's not released yet. It's slated for February next year. There's a few videos of Romero playing it on Twitch though: (
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/347256967)
Quote Posted by Judith
He didn't do anything significant since Doom, and he probably knows it's the last thing he was known for. So he makes a couple more levels to attract attention to his new project (he even suggests preorders). Where's an attack in stating that? That's just what he seems to be doing right now. I honestly don't care how he acted behind the scenes back then, he's pretty nice guy during GDC lectures now. But even that doesn't matter to me, because he's no longer relevant. To me, Carmack is much more important, as I see what he did with e.g. idtech4 engine (I work with it on a pretty much daily basis now).
Saying that he made the new Doom episode just because he wants to be in the center of attention seems like an attack on his character to me. Saying that he's doing it because he wants publicity for his next project would be something else entirely.
