MoroseTroll on 11/8/2013 at 13:28
Quote Posted by Robert4222
For the love of God, they had 4 years of development and they still haven't mastered the engine? I pity them, seriously
They had 5 years, because they have started in 2008 (not 2009).
Robert4222 on 11/8/2013 at 13:41
Quote Posted by MoroseTroll
They had 5 years, because they have started in 2008 (not 2009).
Yeah but they were beginning and going through a pre-development stage back in that time
heywood on 11/8/2013 at 13:45
I'm sure it's a console thing. Precision movement is a lot easier with a mouse & keyboard unless you are super precise with a thumbstick. So rather than make a game where console players spend all their attention fighting the controller and trying not to fall, or designing the levels to look & play like a platformer, they added contextual jumping/mantling and swoop. It's probably a fine decision for the console, but it sucks for PC players.
I suspect the same console movement difficulties are what motivated including the Blink ability in Dishonored. The difference is that you can play Dishonored with a keyboard & mouse and reach 90%+ of areas the regular way without using Blink.
There's no need for (and no excuse for) contextual movement over free-form, unless you suck at level design.
Robert4222 on 11/8/2013 at 13:58
That's nonsense. I hardly imagine that consoles controllers can give you trouble on platforming sections, and the blink ability was basically made to reach high places or quickly move from one spot to another
SubJeff on 11/8/2013 at 14:03
Quote Posted by heywood
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I suspect the same console movement difficulties are what motivated including the Blink ability in Dishonored. The difference is that you can play Dishonored with a keyboard & mouse and reach 90%+ of areas the regular way without using Blink.
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Do you really think this?
You don't think it's because it's a cool and fun power?
Wow.
I don't understand how other minds work.
CloudOJD on 11/8/2013 at 14:19
Quote Posted by heywood
I suspect the same console movement difficulties are what motivated including the Blink ability in Dishonored. The difference is that you can play Dishonored with a keyboard & mouse and reach 90%+ of areas the regular way without using Blink.
While I agree mouse + keyb feels more efficient, I think your argument about Blink is a tad absurd.
Dia on 11/8/2013 at 14:29
All I can do is sit here and shake my head. With every new interview of EM T4 team members or article about T4 I become more and more convinced I'm watching an horrific trainwreck.
In slow motion.
:(
henke on 11/8/2013 at 14:30
Quote Posted by heywood
Precision movement is a lot easier with a mouse & keyboard unless you are super precise with a thumbstick.
As has been pointed out already, this is
nonsense, but I'll elaborate a bit. Mouse is more precise for looking around and aiming. Movement on the other hand is not done with the mouse if you're using m+kb, it's done with the keyboard, which has digital inputs. A thumbstick has analogue input which not only allows for easier altering of your movement speed but also allows you to move on more directions than the 8 directions WASD allows you to move in. When it comes to movement, gamepad is more precise than m+kb. Not being able to fall off the beams in Thief is a ridiculous design decision, and one that has nothing to do with consoles.
Robert4222 on 11/8/2013 at 14:38
Quote Posted by Dia
All I can do is sit here and shake my head. With every new interview of EM T4 team members or article about T4 I become more and more convinced I'm watching an horrific trainwreck.
In slow motion.
:(
I'm pretty sure they are upset of our opinions and want to make us regret or..
They were making a prototype build of the game that was so awful that they had to start from scratch and rush, making the game's environment and actions limited
Dia on 11/8/2013 at 14:43
Quote Posted by demagogue
I'll agree any 'blame' belongs to the contemp gaming culture first.
Do you mean gamers with this type of mentality?
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