june gloom on 23/1/2014 at 08:01
Quote Posted by NuEffect
Your TV for the under 50s Netflix thing was pretty out there dethtoll. You got any evidence for that?
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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/jul/07/television) It's a well-documented phenomenon. The age gap has only gotten wider as Netflix and other streaming services get more mainstream.
SubJeff on 23/1/2014 at 08:53
How interesting!
Red_Breast on 25/1/2014 at 19:55
I just wanted to point out something on that Take 5 page regarding PC box versions of the game. Posted by Valerie Bourdeau.
I have quoted the part I mean
Quote:
The Master Thief Edition is available through download only, either from Steam or other digital distribution platforms. The standard edition of Thief for PC will likewise be all digital and will not be sold on disc in North America.
So not sold on disc in NA. How about the rest of the world?
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http://community.eidosmontreal.com/blogs/Take-5-QA-6?theme=thief)
Jah on 25/1/2014 at 20:43
Quote Posted by Azaran
CD's and DVD's are permanent (or at least will last decades).
As far as the longevity of physical media is concerned, I know I've got plenty of games that I bought on floppies which are now completely useless to me. Even assuming that the floppies haven't become corrupted over the years, I no longer have a floppy drive to read them with. The physical durability of the media doesn't necessarily guarantee that you'll actually be able to use it, say, 20 years from now.
Renault on 25/1/2014 at 21:29
That's a pretty weak argument though. Because you could go on to Amazon or Ebay and within 5 minutes have a floppy drive shipped to your house for a couple of bucks and it would be there in just a few days.
Azaran on 25/1/2014 at 21:38
Yeah I'm pretty sure they sell USB floppy drives you could use to recover your stuff
Jah on 25/1/2014 at 22:42
I could do that, sure. But would I want to? How much trouble would I really be ready to go through, when I know that I could download those games from some abandonware site in a couple of minutes, and wouldn't even feel guilty about it, since I've bought copies of them legally? It would be much more convenient if I owned digital copies of them and didn't have to worry about what sort of physical media they were originally released on.
The point I'm trying to make is that some people's reluctance or refusal to buy games in digital format appears to be based on the belief that owning a physical copy inherently better guarantees that you'll be able to play the game X years from now. I would argue that this isn't necessarily the case, or that under the right circumstances, a digital copy would be much more convenient.
Pyrian on 26/1/2014 at 06:50
3.5" drives seem to be readily available, 5.25" not so much. I am, however, dubious that media from the time when those were popular is likely to be useable. The shelf life of those discs were never good. Mine all went bad even before I ran out of drives.
Ironically, I can play my favorite old Apple ][+ games just fine - digitally. Ultima V FTW!
New Horizon on 26/1/2014 at 08:14
Quote Posted by Jah
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could do that, sure. But would I want to? How much trouble would I really be ready to go through, when I know that I could download those games from some abandonware site in a couple of minutes, and wouldn't even feel guilty about it, since I've bought copies of them legally? It would be much more convenient if I owned digital copies of them and didn't have to worry about what sort of physical media they were originally released on.
The point I'm trying to make is that some people's reluctance or refusal to buy games in digital format appears to be based on the belief that owning a physical copy inherently better guarantees that you'll be able to play the game X years from now. I would argue that this isn't necessarily the case, or that under the right circumstances, a digital copy would be much more convenient.
Digital copies are just a bunch of 1's and 0's. Some people are cool with that but I like to own a physical copy of anything I spend my hard earned cash on. There's also the possibility that someday I might run into a creator of that thing and an autographed copy is sometimes nice. Would love to have Stephen Russell autograph my copies of Thief 1, 2 and 3 for example. If some are ok with digital that's great, but for me a physical copy is a slightly more personal experience.
TheCityCouncil on 26/1/2014 at 10:02
I share the optimism of the OP.
I've been down with Thief fever since the PC Gamer demo (who here hasn't?), and as a hater of the Deadly Shadows, this Thief (4), with its dark and shady flavors, is looking very pleasant to my eye at the moment (apart from the optional "batman-vision" and the other "aids", but I guess those things help sell this game to a wider audience, which is a good thing IMO).
I could see myself getting lost in the city the same way I got lost in the '98 (or '97?) demo which I spent like 50+ hours on before buying the actual full version.
As a sidenote, this Thief + Oculus Rift...:thumb: Could be something very special!
